History Channel Admits Anthrax Attacks Were an Inside Job!

[wildbilln864]

.linky :hi:

[Bolo Boffin]

1. The History Channel isn't the best source for history.

http://www.ph.ucla.edu/epi/bioter/theamesstrain.html

The Ames strain's reputation among laboratory scientists created a demand for it, and the demand was handily met. Philip Brachman says that if he had wanted to get hold of an anthrax strain, he could have simply written to a laboratory that had it and they would have sent it to him. Germ banks around the world maintain and sell from collections of bacteria, and hundreds of university and research laboratories freely exchange strains of various organisms. There are some limitations, particularly in the United States. The 1996 Anti-Terrorism Act requires that anyone dealing in dangerous pathogens must show a legitimate scientific purpose and must register with the Centers for Disease Control. But the law does not prohibit possession of those dangerous pathogens by non-scientists. Nor are background checks, such as those required before the purchase of a handgun, conducted upon the hiring of technicians who have access to pathogens in laboratories.

In any event, restrictions can be avoided through private exchanges between scientists. With anthrax, there is plenty to share. "You streak it out on a petri dish until there's one individual live bacterium at a particular spot on the plate," Jim Roth explains. "You grow it overnight, one bacterium turns into millions."

The Ames strain wasn't that hard to get.

[mhatrw]

19. So who mailed it? Why? n/t

[SidDithers]

2. So, truthers believe the HC when it suits their purpose...

but were vilifying them a short 6 months ago...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=169938&mesg_id=169938

The truth movement is all about consistency, right?

Sid

[whatchamacallit]

3. The question is, how do you OCTists feel about the HC now that they don't suit your purpose?

Delicious Irony...

[William Seger]

5. Suit what purpose?

It's very plausible that the anthrax mailing was an "inside job" by a government employee or contractor who had access to the Ames strain. What the freak does that have to do with "OCTists"? Does the term "inside job" just give you a woody?

[whatchamacallit]

7. No it doesn't give me a woody, "Willy"

It's plausible the anthrax mailing was done, as the US government would like you to believe, by Al Qaeda as part of the 911 attacks. It's also plausible the US government engineered the event to reinforce their cover story and chill inquiry. What's not very plausible is someone not affiliated with either Al Qaeda or the US government doing this on their own. What would the motivation be? Who were they trying to help and how could they guess the effects? No, like most OCT beliefs, not very plausible at all.

[William Seger]

8. Plausible?

> "It's also plausible the US government engineered the event to reinforce their cover story and chill inquiry."

At best, that's only as plausible as the "cover story" hypothesis itself -- i.e., extremely implausible -- and not even really that good. How would mailing anthrax "chill inquiry" rather than trigger more, and create one more opportunity to get caught? To conspiracists, it seems that everything that did or didn't happen can be construed to imply "inside job." That's the typical result when you work backwards from a conclusion and torture the evidence into a confession.

[whatchamacallit]

11. Call it a shot across the bow, like the horse head in the producer's bed

Here's a hypothetical: If you, as a congressional leader or media boss with concerns or reservations about the official story, got a letter containing weapons-grade anthrax, would you not think twice about pursuing or voicing those concerns? Now, before you dismiss this with typical OCT arrogance, go here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthrax_attacks#Timeline Look at the dates of the events and ask yourself, 'If someone did this on their own how could the first could first mailings have been made days before the 911 attacks?' No, it was either islamic terrorists, or us.

[William Seger]

13. .... or a lone nut.

If is was part of a master plan by either terrorists or the PNACers or anyone else, why would it be "within days?" Why not immediately? It could have been something a lone nut had been thinking about doing for some time, who then decided to take advantage of the attacks. That's what the timing looks like to me, anyway, and the targets don't really fit your intimidation hypothesis. It's extremely hard for me to believe that any of those targets ever seriously considered that it was an "inside job" and needed intimidation to "back off.". But of course, you'd need to appreciate how ridiculously implausible the "inside job" theory sounds to most people to appreciate that reason. I suppose you think it's a plausible reason because you think everyone should have been suspicious. Oh well...

[whatchamacallit]

15. I got part of the timeline wrong, nothing related happened before 911

*Brain-fart* That's what I get for simultaneously watching TV, playing WOW, and posting on DU. Still, whoever did it seemed to be in sync with Bush's islamic fear-mongering. How convenient.

[mhatrw]

22. Yeah, a lone nut just happened to send anthrax to Senators Leahy & Daschle

while Leahy's committee and Daschle's Senate were trying to amend the Patriot Act.

[procopia]

29. And Bush WH officials just happened to begin Cipro after 9/11

:shrug:

[noise]

12. Could also describe the 9/11 Commission report process

"...you work backwards from a conclusion and torture the evidence into a confession."

[mhatrw]

20. If it didn't chill inquiry, then why is it a cold case? n/t

[William Seger]

21. Say huh?

They mailed Anthrax to chill inquiry into the Anthrax mailing?

[wildbilln864]

9. Faulty assumptions by

Sid!

I just posted about the article. Didn't say anyone believed anything. Don't ass/u/me you know what I believe. :eyes:

[SidDithers]

17. That's right, bill. I forgot. ...

You just post links to videos without comment. Or you post made up quotes without attribution.

You don't believe anything.

You're only "asking questions".

Sid

[wildbilln864]

18. and you...

reinforced my point in post 9! You assume so much.
:rofl:

[William Seger]

4. History Channel "admits" an inside job?

You mean, they were in on it?

Actually, what the HC "admitted" in that video was that "some say yes," and then showed someone saying that. Old news, and another false title for a "truther" blog. Gee, thanks, wildbill, for another quality post. :hi:

[wildbilln864]

10. See post 9!

:eyes:

[LARED]

6. The leaps of logic are astonding

The History Channel is saying the Anthrax came from within the US weapons program. They also say those inside know where the Anthrax originated.

How the Anthrax was used, by whom and how it managed to get outside of the US program is not publicly known. I would assume they know now, and aren't going to tell.

But the reality of this is that Dick Cheny could have stuck it in his pocket or it could have happened about one hundred other ways.

[mhatrw]

23. So you think "they" know who mailed the anthrax?

Why do you "they" haven't arrested this murderer?

[LARED]

25. No, I said they likely know where it originated

That is what from what lab or facility the Anthrax originated.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

14. Here's a part of the History Channel piece...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=YdamOzrfZI0

[TZ]

16. Let me give you my perspective

I've actually worked in government labs, visited (and known people) who worked at Detrick where they got the Anthrax most likely, and actually done a little anthrax vaccine work. If there is anybody truly qualified to talk about this here on DU, its me.

I can say, I think it was a govt scientist. In 2000 there was a govt run Antrax vaccine program that had all kinds of issues, including allegations by other scientists that the vaccine was given out to the military without proper safety studies being put in place. The 9/11 attacks could have been easily used as a cover by someone wanting to point out how important the vaccine program was.
The person I suspect now has a higher level government job. They got the job in 2002 I think....

[mhatrw]

24. So people were murdered for vaccine pork?

Wow.

[wildbilln864]

26. kick! n/t

:hi:

[defendandprotect]

27. Of course they were --- !!! And shut down Congress right after 9/11 for 3-6 months--!!!

Think Congress missed a few signals, packets of info in that time---??

These people have been working political violence for the past 45 years --- or more --- !!!

And, they are become more and more openly violent as their dream is coming closer ---

[MinM]

28. The Myth created to help sell the Official 9/11 Myth...

Gets exposed. How ironic. :nuke:

[SidDithers]

30. This History Channel?...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=107639&mesg_id=107642

how can they get by with the bullshit?
Jet fuel traveled down the elevator shafts? That's the first time I heard that one!
It's the fuckin history channel! Rewriting history!

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Sid