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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 04:54 AM Original message |
Waiting For Seven: WTC-7 Collapse Warnings in the FDNY Oral Histories |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 05:10 AM Response to Original message |
1. Is there a reason MacQueen mixes collapse accounts of the towers and 7 in the appendices? |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 05:47 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. If you actually READ all the oral histories like I have, you might get a clue |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 06:02 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. I can't believe you don't understand this. |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 06:45 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Exactly one firefighter mentions a transit to a magazine six months after the fact. |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 01:59 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. "That's it for any "evidence" of WTC-7 leaning or bulging." Another lie. |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 04:01 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Who mentioned the fact that WTC-7 was leaning in their |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 04:07 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Why are you automatically discounting every account but the oral histories? |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 01:22 AM Response to Reply #14 |
32. There is EXACTLY one account, given in a magazine interview 6 months after the fact. |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:22 AM Response to Reply #32 |
38. There are plenty more than that about damage to the building, mhatrw. |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 04:01 AM Response to Reply #38 |
42. List every report of a transit being put on WTC-7 that showed it bulging/leaning. |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 04:53 AM Response to Reply #42 |
48. More footstomping. n/t |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 05:08 AM Response to Reply #48 |
52. More misdirection and avoidance. n/t |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 05:13 AM Response to Reply #52 |
56. I stand corrected. You were displaying more misdirection and avoidance. |
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nebula (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 11:06 AM Response to Reply #3 |
8. Yes, of course |
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CGowen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 12:36 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. or they said things like this |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 01:59 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. That is about the towers. Please focus. n/t |
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CGowen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 02:04 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. it's from the pdf above and it's about FDNY n/t |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 04:23 PM Response to Reply #12 |
18. I know it's from the report above. The idiot who wrote it got the towers and 7 mixed up. n/t |
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CGowen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 04:30 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. It's under Appendix E |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 04:35 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. What. Does that. Have to do. With Building 7. The subject. Of the paper. ?. |
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CGowen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 05:12 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. He uses it in his paper, you can read it if you like |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 06:49 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. I have read the paper and noted the confusion therein. |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 04:46 AM Response to Reply #21 |
46. The author argues that the collapse for WTC-1 & WTC-2 caused |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 04:56 AM Response to Reply #46 |
50. You call Ground Zero a neat pile? |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 05:09 AM Response to Reply #50 |
53. No buildings that tall have ever been brought down in less than 20 seconds any neater |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 05:12 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. Good night. |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 07:00 AM Response to Reply #53 |
58. And your sample size is how large? nt |
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nebula (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 04:16 PM Response to Reply #9 |
17. Nice quote. |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 04:24 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. It's about the towers, before either of them fell. NOT about building 7. n/t |
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nebula (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 09:09 PM Response to Reply #19 |
29. In that case, |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 04:09 PM Response to Reply #1 |
15. Are you ever going to deal with the circular argument made by MacQueen? |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 01:30 AM Response to Reply #15 |
34. Bullshit. All the paper is saying is that the fact that WTC-1 & WTC-2 |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:21 AM Response to Reply #34 |
37. Shall I quote from Mr. MacQueen? |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 04:10 AM Response to Reply #37 |
43. That isn't circular reasoning, grasshopper. |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 04:52 AM Response to Reply #43 |
47. I thought you had read every report about the aftermath of the towers. |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 05:12 AM Response to Reply #47 |
55. Point me to the official report that discusses the transit and the WTC-7 bulge and |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 02:37 PM Response to Reply #55 |
69. Your standard of evidence is conveniently exacting |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 04:56 PM Response to Reply #69 |
72. Come on. What is "exacting" about expecting one single mention of |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 07:01 PM Response to Reply #72 |
76. It was the black operatives. They stole the readings. |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 08:41 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. I find it amazing the CT's demand... |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 03:49 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. If logic fails, you can always resort to ridicule! n/t |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 03:53 PM Response to Reply #78 |
79. You mean like you guys? |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 04:04 PM Response to Reply #78 |
82. Nice sidestep. How did you like my actual hypothesis? n/t |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 04:10 PM Response to Reply #1 |
16. Are you ever going to deal with the accounts of the towers and 7 that MacQueen mixes up? n/t |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 01:24 AM Response to Reply #16 |
33. He already dealt with it just fine. |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:22 AM Response to Reply #33 |
39. No, he did not. |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 07:17 AM Response to Original message |
5. Marc Jacobson, New York Magazine reporter and eyewitness witness |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 08:14 AM Response to Original message |
6. OK - so the FDNY was in on the plot |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 08:21 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. You know that's not at all the point the OP is making |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 06:02 PM Response to Reply #7 |
24. That's where the conversation always ends up |
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mrgerbik (652 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 11:13 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. you're wrong |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 06:59 AM Response to Reply #30 |
57. That's not what I expect at all |
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CGowen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 07:09 AM Response to Reply #57 |
59. Gordon Ross does it for example |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 05:14 PM Response to Original message |
23. Why Warn Anyone? |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 06:46 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Exactly -- and the "engineer-type guy" issued his warning just before the collapse |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 08:29 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. Quit trying to use Logic with the CT's... |
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mrgerbik (652 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 11:47 PM Response to Reply #23 |
31. good question |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 01:38 AM Response to Reply #23 |
36. Because they needed to clear the area of legitimate first responders. |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:27 AM Response to Reply #36 |
41. Once again, Do You Have ANY EVIDENCE Of These Black Operatives? |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 04:28 AM Response to Reply #41 |
44. Follow the bouncing ball, bolo. |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 04:57 AM Response to Reply #44 |
51. Oh, I'm following it. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 09:48 AM Response to Reply #44 |
64. Where do you get "mockingly" out of that? |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 04:59 PM Response to Reply #64 |
73. And why they never sent any responders into the twin towers in the first place. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 05:15 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. I'm trying to understand that comment |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 06:49 PM Response to Reply #74 |
83. Perhaps this will help. (One can always hope.) |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 07:11 AM Response to Reply #36 |
60. Oh, for the love of God.... |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 08:26 AM Response to Reply #60 |
61. When did I say anything about anyone rigging WTC-7 to blow on 9/11? |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 09:17 AM Response to Reply #61 |
63. Okay.... |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:17 PM Response to Reply #63 |
71. It seems.... |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 06:43 PM Response to Original message |
25. Daniel Nigro made the call and explained his reasoning. |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 01:35 AM Response to Reply #25 |
35. Nothing about leaning, nothing about bulging, and nothing about a transit. |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:24 AM Response to Reply #35 |
40. On your next visit to a dictionary, please look up these two words. |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 04:33 AM Response to Reply #40 |
45. On your next visit to a dictionary, please look up this word. |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 04:55 AM Response to Reply #45 |
49. Oh, so disinformation is why you are arguing that complimentary reports are contradictory? |
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Twist_U_Up (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 08:46 AM Response to Reply #49 |
62. Boffin...You have been faced...... |
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Fainter (499 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 11:13 AM Response to Reply #40 |
65. On UR Next Visit Look Up "Complementary" And "Complimentary" Genius n/t |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 02:05 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. I'll be. |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 02:29 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. While you're at it.... |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 02:36 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. Typos - the wustest thing I do. |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 02:42 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. I no |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 02:34 PM Response to Reply #67 |
90. Deleted message |
Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 02:40 PM Response to Reply #90 |
91. Do you know why that post is edited, Fainter? |
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Fainter (499 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 02:54 PM Response to Reply #91 |
92. The Earth Is Flat. n/t |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 03:31 PM Response to Reply #92 |
93. That is a factually inaccurate statement, Fainter. n/t |
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Fainter (499 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 05:16 PM Response to Reply #67 |
95. No, We Need Relief From Absurd Double Standards... |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 05:21 PM Response to Reply #95 |
96. "One I don't go out of my way to raise" |
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Fainter (499 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 07:10 PM Response to Reply #96 |
103. It Is Nitpicking To Correct Usage (I Plead Guilty), But U Nitpicked... |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 05:18 PM Response to Reply #35 |
75. What do you suppose he meant by: |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 03:56 PM Response to Reply #75 |
80. No. But why isn't there a SINGLE mention of a transit being put on WTC-7 |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 04:04 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. While they're at it... |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 07:02 PM Response to Reply #81 |
84. OCT-lite! |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 12:01 AM Response to Reply #84 |
86. I fricking give up |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 07:48 PM Response to Reply #80 |
85. "Direct scientific evidence"? |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 10:30 AM Response to Reply #85 |
87. The bottom line is that Hayden clearly claims that "we" put a transit on WTC-7. |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 02:08 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. Why do you keep making factually inaccurate statements? |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 05:36 PM Response to Reply #88 |
97. What is your reasonable explanation? |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 05:40 PM Response to Reply #97 |
99. Evidence of what? |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 05:52 PM Response to Reply #99 |
102. Once again, how do the original motives of the transit measurements |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 07:35 PM Response to Reply #97 |
104. See post 72, again. n/t |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 12:58 AM Response to Reply #104 |
105. Cute. You've got less than nothing, as usual. n/t |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 02:46 AM Response to Reply #105 |
106. Bullshit. Compared to your corker about black operatives, it's a model of sanity and clarity. |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 09:49 AM Response to Reply #106 |
107. Go to page L-17 of NIST's progress report and start reading. |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 10:32 AM Response to Reply #107 |
108. Another case of selective quoting |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 09:54 PM Response to Reply #108 |
112. What in the world does ANY of this have to do with my point? |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 10:03 PM Response to Reply #112 |
113. Duh.... |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 10:31 PM Response to Reply #113 |
117. If other, better evidence was overwhelming, why did NIST rely on |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 10:34 PM Response to Reply #117 |
118. I've already explained this once.... |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 10:41 PM Response to Reply #118 |
120. OK. Stop. Pretend you are in charge of determining the exact physical mechanisms that |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 04:54 PM Response to Reply #107 |
111. Besides SDuderstadt's excellent post, I'd like to add |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 10:14 PM Response to Reply #111 |
114. Like I said before, you've got nothing. |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 10:26 PM Response to Reply #114 |
115. You have not established that NIST was told about the transit. |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 10:39 PM Response to Reply #115 |
119. You're right. The FDNY brass ever told NIST anything about how and why they determined WTC-7 |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 10:46 PM Response to Reply #119 |
121. :eyes: |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 10:48 PM Response to Reply #121 |
123. That should give you almost enough time to lick your wounds. n/t |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 10:57 PM Response to Reply #123 |
125. Yes, I split my sides laughing at your posts. |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 11:00 PM Response to Reply #125 |
126. Laughter is the best medicine for a broken heart. n/t |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 11:07 PM Response to Reply #126 |
127. You have no evidence of the state of my heart. |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 10:29 PM Response to Reply #114 |
116. Please point out exactly how my post is either.... |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 02:32 PM Response to Reply #87 |
89. Because Hayden was "in on it"? |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 05:38 PM Response to Reply #89 |
98. You are making no sense. |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 05:42 PM Response to Reply #98 |
100. Yeah, because.... |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 05:50 PM Response to Reply #100 |
101. See, that makes no sense whatsover. You would rather NOT examine |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 12:37 PM Response to Reply #101 |
110. Then USE logic |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 10:47 PM Response to Reply #110 |
122. Because you can't have it both ways, jberryhill. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 11:30 PM Response to Reply #122 |
128. "Most crucial" in your mind |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 03:18 AM Response to Reply #128 |
129. You are missing the point, again. |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 04:06 AM Response to Reply #129 |
130. Perhaps you should withhold your judgment. |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 05:15 AM Response to Reply #130 |
132. Way to go, NIST! |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 01:56 PM Response to Reply #132 |
134. The working hypothesis isn't about collapse initiation, mhatrw. |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 03:00 PM Response to Reply #134 |
135. Just answer one question. |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 03:17 PM Response to Reply #135 |
136. How should I know? |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 03:55 PM Response to Reply #136 |
137. Translation: You can't think of any explanation for this that sounds even |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 04:30 PM Response to Reply #137 |
138. The author of "black operatives stealing the gold" is chiding me for |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 05:50 PM Response to Reply #138 |
142. You have no trouble speculating when you think you are making sense, boloboffin. |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 08:04 PM Response to Reply #142 |
147. Now the "Black operatives stealing the gold" guy is threatening me with my own words. |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 06:52 AM Response to Reply #132 |
140. How do you know what evidence NIST has? |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 02:50 PM Response to Reply #140 |
141. The God of the Gaps. n/t |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 05:57 PM Response to Reply #140 |
143. Here is the OCT as it currently stands. |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 07:12 PM Response to Reply #143 |
144. I am not inclined to follow you much further into the weeds |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 07:30 PM Response to Reply #144 |
145. The only thing my mind is made up about is the fact that you OCTers |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 07:59 PM Response to Reply #145 |
146. Except you can't tell us why it is important |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 11:21 AM Response to Reply #146 |
149. Either FEMA & NIST heard this information and determined that it |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 01:50 PM Response to Reply #149 |
150. Dude... |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 09:10 PM Response to Reply #145 |
148. No, we actually rely on evidence.... |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 04:37 AM Response to Reply #129 |
131. What do you mean by "Even you"? |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 05:52 AM Response to Reply #131 |
133. You still don't get it. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 12:36 PM Response to Reply #98 |
109. What makes you think NIST hasn't? |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 10:51 PM Response to Reply #109 |
124. OK. Stop. Pretend you are in charge of determining the exact physical mechanisms that |
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139. BBC reported WTC "collapse" before it happened |
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