Anyone have these books?

[paulthompson]

I'm looking to find the page numbers for a few references. Does anyone have these books handy, willing to look up the pages of a few quotes?


Taliban: Militant Islam, Oil and Fundamentalism in Central Asia, by Ahmed Rashid

The Forbidden Truth, by Jean-Charles Brisard, Guillaume Dasquié, and Wayne Madsen

The Grand Chessboard: American Primacy and its Geostrategic Imperatives, by Zbigniew Brzezinski

[NecessaryOnslaught]

1. I have the Grand Chessboard.

What ya need?

[paulthompson]

2. Thanks!

I'm trying to find the page numbers for these quotes. Do you have them?

Former National Security Advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski publishes a book in which he portrays the
Eurasian landmass as the key to world power, and Central Asia with its vast oil reserves as the key to
domination of Eurasia. He states that for the US to maintain its global primacy, it must prevent any
possible adversary from controlling that region. He notes, “The attitude of the American public toward
the external projection of American power has been much more ambivalent. The public supported
America’s engagement in World War II largely because of the shock effect of the Japanese attack on Pearl
Harbor.” He predicts that because of popular resistance to US military expansionism, his ambitious
Central Asian strategy cannot be implemented “except in the circumstance of a truly massive and
widely perceived direct external threat.”

[NecessaryOnslaught]

3. Here ya go

"The attitude of the American public toward the external projection of American power has been much more ambivalent. The public supported
America’s engagement in World War II largely because of the shock effect of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor." pgs. 24-25

"Indeed, the critical uncertainty regarding the future may well be whether America might become the first superpower unable or unwilling to wield its power. Might it become an impotent global power? Public opinion polls suggest that only a small minority (13 percent) of Americans favor the proposition that "as the sole remaining superpower, the U.S. should continue to be the preeminent world leader in solving international problems. An overwhelming majority (74 percent) prefer that America "do its fair share in efforts to solve international problems together with other countries"

Moreover, as America becomes an increasingly multicultural society, it may find it more difficult to fashion a consensus on foreign policy issues, except in the circumstances of a truly massive and widely perceived threat. Such a consensus generally existed throughout WW2 and even during the Cold War. It was rooted, however, not only in deeply shared democratic values, which the public sensed were being threatened, but also in a cultural and ethnic affinity for the predominantly European victims of hostile totalitarianisms.

pgs 210-211 (the perceived threat quote is on pg 211.)

[paulthompson]

4. thanks a ton

Very appreciated.

Anyone have the other two books?

[Pastiche423]

5. I have Forbidden Truth!

It doesn't have an index, so could you give an idea of the event(s) surrounding the quotes?

[paulthompson]

6. Oooh please!

I missed your reply somehow. The needed quotes are:

One specific threat made at this
meeting is that the Taliban can choose between “carpets of bombs”—an invasion—or “carpets of gold”—
the pipeline.

Christina Rocca, Director of Asian Affairs at the State Department, secretly meets the Taliban ambassador
in Islamabad, apparently in a last ditch attempt to secure a pipeline deal. Rocca was previously in
charge of contacts with Islamic guerrilla groups at the CIA, and oversaw the delivery of Stinger missiles
to Afghan mujaheddin in the 1980s.

counterterrorism expert John O’Neill and his team investigating the 1998 U.S. embassy bombings
are repeatedly frustrated by the Saudi government. Guillaume Dasquié, one of the authors of The Forbidden
Truth, later tells the Village Voice: “We uncovered incredible things . . . Investigators would arrive
to find that key witnesses they were about to interrogate had been beheaded the day before.”

John O’Neill, FBI counterterrorism expert, privately discusses White House obstruction in his bin
Laden investigation. O’Neill says, “The main obstacles to investigate Islamic terrorism were U.S. oil
corporate interests and the role played by Saudi Arabia in it.” He adds, “All the answers, everything
needed to dismantle Osama bin Laden’s organization, can be found in Saudi Arabia.” O’Neill also
believes the White House is obstructing his investigation of bin Laden because they are still keeping the
idea of a pipeline deal with the Taliban open.


If you can find these quickly, you'd be a lifesaver.

[LoftyTheLion]

7. Page numbers (Forbidden Truth)

P43
Naik recounted that a U.S. official had threatened, "Either you accept our offer of a carpet of gold, or we bury you under a carpet of bombs."

P45
"In Islamabad on August 2, the tireless Christina Rocca spoke with the Taliban ambassador and demanded the extradition of bin Laden."

Prologue Pxxix
"For him, everything could be explained through this prism. 'All of the answers, all of the clues allowing us to dismantle Osama bin Laden's organization, can be found in Saudi Arabia,' he told me, emphasizing 'the inability of American diplomacy to get anything out of King Fahd' concerning terrorist networks. The reason? There was only one: corporate oil interests.

Prologue Pxxix
"... O'Neill went to Saudi Arabia himself to convince King Fahd to get the Saudi authorities to cooperate. But that was a lost cause, because Saudi officials interrogated the principal suspects themselves, while the FBI was relegated to collecting material evidence from the bomb site."

Hope this helps.

[paulthompson]

8. Thanks!

Just in time, too. :)

[number6]

9. Forbidden Truth and Grand Chessboard

;)