OCTers: You really believe the Osama confession tape is authentic?

[nebula]

You know, the one that was officially released by the White House and widely circulated in the MSM? And presented as proof that Osama is the mastermind behind 9/11 ?


This is one issue that OCTers won't dare to address.

[mirandapriestly]

1. If the corporate media would show fake Osama videos

without question, what else would they fake? I've got CNN Pipeline which shows archived videos and I haven't watched their fake bin ladin footage yet, but when I do I'm going to see which "analysts" are saying they are real.
Look at this guy, it doesn't look any thing like him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk519bkcLjg

[nebula]

2. That ridiculous video

...just proves they have NO evidence whatsoever to show that Osama is behind 9/11.

Not even a tiny, marginally credible piece of evidence.

I just about fell out of my chair when I saw first saw it. I can't believe they
would try to pass off something so obviously fake as official, 'irrefutable' evidence.

But the idiots certainly did!

[piobair]

3. not nearly as believable

as steel supporting its own combustion.

[nebula]

4. Hah!

Good one. :7

[mirandapriestly]

12. Notice , the MEDIA does it too,..that's what is significant. eom

[Bolo Boffin]

5. Oh, I dare, I dare.

[nebula]

6. The four lower photos in your image

From left to right:

1) face, especially cheeks are noticeably chubbier than A-D. Facial features are noticeably different, particularly the shape of the mouth. It just looks like a very different face underneath the beard.

2,3) the thickness of the neck indicates someone of substantially greater weight and greater build than the very thin Osama.

4) picture quality too poor to tell.





On another note:

Which of the following photos does not match?

[AZCat]

7. B - because he has a microphone and in the others he doesn't?

I love these puzzles!

[SidDithers]

8. I was going to go with C...

because in C, he is clearly singing that atheist/Jewish Christmas anthem "O Holy Night", whereas in the other pics, he's just proclaiming death to the infidels.

Sid

[AZCat]

9. You're right, but now that I think about it, "A" has possibilities.

He looks like he's mid-lecture (probably his wildly popular "Dining Out Choices in Afghanistan for the Diabetic Muslim") while he does look a bit wild-eyed in the others (mid-rant, I suppose).

[Bolo Boffin]

10. You're funny.

In the third picture on the bottom, Osama clearly has thin cheeks. That means that all of the pictures on the bottom and picture E are of a thin-cheeked man.

The same thin-cheeked man that appears in pictures A-D, in fact. Osama bin Laden.

[nebula]

11. You have quite an imagination

[Bolo Boffin]

13. Hah!

So why don't you point to the 'fat cheeks' in the second and third photos, huh? It's all the same guy, so those cheeks should stay fat, right?

But you don't, because clearly the cheeks don't stay fat. You have to start in about a 'thick neck' on those photos.

However, it's much more likely that the cheeks are thin, and that the grainy video gives a misleading representation of them in those other frames, than that the cheeks get fat and thin in the space of a few moments.

Now who's got the imagination, again?

[mirandapriestly]

14. Perfect example of "emperor's new clothes"

You can tell it's not him in the video and yet they deny it right out in the open and say sort of straw men like "oh because he has a gold ring on, we're supposed to believe it is
not him?" when it's not him because the guy has different facial features and different body movements, it just isn't! Now this is important to watch how the false opposition operates because they do the same thing here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6OLxNbhxUw

It's the same thing as the rest of 9-11 from the building cd's/implosion to the media coverage. It's right there in front of your face like the naked emperor, but a large number are pretending that he is wearing clothes; some out of conformity , some pretend to.

[pauldp]

15. Oy. Here we go again. It's the length of the nose.

It's not how fat he is or what ring he's wearing that clinches it. The dead giveaway is the length of the nose.
Draw a line parallel to the eyes resting on the top of the nostrils and you will see
what is apparent in all of the stills from the confession video. Look at the distance from the line to the eyes.
There are many other ways to see the same thing... Confession Osama has a shorter nose than the real Osama.
The nostrils on the real Osama are further down the face. Otherwise short nosed Osama is a pretty good double.

[KJF]

16. Not this again

Osama had doubles, just like other world leaders do. It's probably one of them.

[jberryhill]

17. We probably need a better nomenclature among theorists

Whether any videotape of "Osama" or his double are authentic, or whether there is intelligence value in an official pretense that a video is authentic, is an entirely separate set of issues from the mechanism of collapse and other physical phenomena associated with the 9/11 attack.

There is no question that various parties play all sorts of intelligence games. For example, and thoroughly unrelated to 9/11, Saddam Hussein found value in pretending to be trying to hide WMD which he did not, in fact, have. However, the ambiguity caused by his pretending to hide them was apparently a defensive strategy on his part. The difficulty is that his behavior gave a too-stupid administration an excuse to attack anyway.

What I'm suggesting is that if you, my enemy, gave me a fake Osama video, I might just play along and pretend it is real so that you would believe that I was fooled by a double.

Those games are entirely separate from odd physics relied upon by apologists for terrorism.