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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 02:45 PM
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'Would I have sent my son to his death?'
The family of the 15-year-old boy who was arrested last week by IDF soldiers when he tried to carry out an attack at the Hawara checkpoint south of Nablus has condemned those who sent him as "criminals."

Mohammed al-Nadi, a ninth grader from Askar refugee camp near Nablus, was carrying pipe bombs and a lighter when he approached the soldiers at the checkpoint.

The IDF and the family have accused Fatah's armed wing, the Aksa Martyrs Brigades, of dispatching the boy on a suicide mission. However, Mohammed Subuh, a senior official with the Palestinian Authority's Information Minister, claimed that Israel was behind the incident, staging the near-attack in attempt to undermine PA chairman Mahmoud Abbas's talks with US President George W. Bush.

This is the fifteenth incident in the past two months in which Palestinian youths under the age of 18 have attempted to detonate explosive devices at checkpoints or smuggle weapons via the crossings.

Leaders of the Aksa Martyrs Brigades in Nablus have denied that the group was using minors for launching attacks on the IDF. But several sources in the city,

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1117247288558

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FINALLY !!
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NorCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 04:02 PM
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1. I'm honestly surprised
that the boy wasn't blown away by the soldiers. I guess he was lucky that they were not Marines.
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 04:09 PM
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2. I'm honestly surprised
i'm not telling you what I REALLY think of your vile POST.


Must be YOUR lucky day.
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pelsar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 04:21 PM
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3. berkeley...
Edited on Sat May-28-05 04:25 PM by pelsar
thats because you have very little understanding of what happens out here


drdon326
the "finally" I assume because now it supposed to be very clear that the jihad groups are using kids....the thing is, for anyone who really wanted to know what is going on, its been known for a very very long time. For those who dont want to believe it, they still wont. It will be the usual "zionist tricks", the kid was "under the influence"...etc
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 04:26 PM
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4. No....actually the FINALLY....
Edited on Sat May-28-05 04:51 PM by drdon326


is in reference to the fact that I have posted at least 100 stories about the families of suicide or attempted suicide bombers and the families,and usually the mothers, priase their children for becoming a "MARTYR" by killing jews.

This is the FIRST TIME i have ever FINALLY posted an article where the family ACTUALLY put the blame where it belongs- on the terrorists.
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pelsar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 10:55 PM
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14. finally....
actually i read a couple of years ago there was a group of mothers (MOSB?) of suicided bombers that met in israel for counseling, as they werent "allowed" to grieve publically. The met in a small school (I forget the name, though I took some classes there years ago).

but your right in that this is the first time they have gone public with it...so the finallly is most appropriate...and it collapses the "what choice do they have" bubble when it turns out that there are choices (there alway are) and that there is no concencsis over it.
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 07:43 AM
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16. A loooooong time ago......
I remember reporting on a small protest by a handful of palestinians ACTUALLY protesting against suicide bombers......they didnt last long and of course received no support of any consequence.

I hope those few people werent pre-terminal "collaborators".

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NorCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 08:11 PM
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12. I guess I sounded too harsh.
It's terrible that they're using children, as it is also terrible that innocent civilians get blown away every day by both insurgents and American forces. I was just finishing my thought with my comment, which was that Iraq is really messed up, just like Vietnam was. A war in which both sides are forced to commit attrocities against each other and for no real reason. I didn't intend to come off as hateful as I sounded on re-read. Sorry 'bout that :)
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 04:37 PM
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5. Use of children as combatants by Palestinian militants is documented
Edited on Sat May-28-05 04:41 PM by Jack Rabbit
by the Amnesty International report.

See link in post no. 2 on this thread

Several children were involved in attacks against Israelis; two of them carried out a suicide attack inside Israel. Others were arrested by the Israeli army for their alleged involvement in such attacks. Palestinian armed groups have no declared policy of recruiting children and claim to disavow the use of children; some blamed such abuses on local cells acting on their own initiative or “collaborators” seeking to discredit the armed groups.

In March Hussam ‘Abdu, a 16-year-old boy with mental disabilities, was arrested at Huwara checkpoint, near Nablus, while wearing a suicide belt. The Israeli army had advance information about the case and had closed the checkpoint. The boy remained detained in Israel awaiting trial at the end of the year.

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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 04:59 PM
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6. The depravity of using children as human bombs is bad enough...
but using a mentally challenged kid is unspeakable.


And the world does nothing.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 05:02 PM
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7. We're in a rare agreement on that one, Doc
!!
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 05:03 PM
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8. Yeah !!....WHY ??
We used to agree all the time.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 05:17 PM
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9. We agree that Ian Anderson is the best rock flutist ever
!!
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 05:19 PM
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10. LOL....Like thats ever in doubt ???
"Sitting on a park bench............"
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Lithos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 07:48 PM
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11. Have to think on that
Thijs van Leer of Focus gives him a good run for his money.

L-
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 09:05 AM
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17. Outrageous.
Edited on Sun May-29-05 09:07 AM by drdon326
Sorry, i'm hitting the alert. lol
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bennywhale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 08:22 PM
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13. The most sickening case i remember was the small boy who was teased
at school and called "an ugly dwarf" It was filmed by the IDF and this lad was terrified, and changed his mind before he reached the checkpoint and shouted that he had explosives.

I don't remember which group had sent him, but he said afterwards it was because he'd never had a girlfriend because he was short and ugly and he was promised the 72 virgins etc.

The boy was autistic.
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 11:39 PM
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15. A Wish Before Dying
A few weeks earlier, a far more worthy candidate for adoption was caught in the media spotlight at an IDF checkpoint near Nablus. A smallish 16 year old Palestinian boy named Husam Abdu, mocked and tormented by his schoolmates for being "slow", stood frozen with fear. Aided by a robot, Israeli soldiers gingerly helped him remove a suicide bomb vest that he had been coaxed into wearing for the paltry sum of 100 shekels and the promise of heavenly virgins.

"My friends at school make fun of me." he said later. "They call me 'Brains' but they also make fun of me because I'm small and ugly. They call me 'The Ugly Dwarf'. It hurt so much I wanted to kill myself."

"Since I am studying the Koran, I know about the good life which awaits . The people who gave me the suicide belt told me this was my only chance to have sex."

Back home, Husam's mother was upset that her son had been recruited for a suicide mission, but added that she would not have had he been over 18.

Only days earlier, an even younger Palestinian boy - 10 year old Abdullah Quran - was caught trying to courier a bomb inside a schoolbag through the same checkpoint. Seeing that he was detained, his handlers nearly turned him into a unwitting suicide bomber by cell-phone, but the device failed to detonate. Israeli authorities quickly sent him home, where he was lionized by classmates even while denying the entire incident to the press.


http://invitation.to/dance/israel-childrenterrorists.htm

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Husam's mother was upset that her son had been recruited for a suicide mission, but added that she would not have had he been over 18.

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