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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 07:06 AM
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AIDS-infected terror attempts stain Pessah
Over the past weeks, over 10 perpetrators were arrested, and 5 major attacks have been prevented, including 3 suicide attacks. In one case, a Balata woman was forced to carry out a suicide attack after being discovered cheating on her husband. Tahanni Khalil, 25 was arrested on March 18, and told investigators she intended to explode in Tel Aviv, thus cleansing her name.

In another triple attack, terrorists were to attack a major city disguised as soldiers. And in another – a bomb was to be tainted with AIDS-infected blood that would infect all those not killed.

While there has been a noticeable decrease in violence, officials in the Shin Bet described the current situation as one of "imaginary calm." Officials noted that while the ongoing closure imposed on Judea, Samaria and the Gaza Strip assisted in hampering constant attempts by terrorists to launch attacks, the intensive operations conducted by the IDF, Shin Bet and other security forces in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip to arrest fugitives has succeeded in thwarting numerous attempts.

Details of some of the operations included the arrest of Rami Hafez Abdullah,24, a resident of a village in the Kalkilya area who revealed that the Fatah Tanzim infrastructure in Nablus had planned to launch a suicide attack in Israel with a bomb tainted with Aids-infected blood.

The same infrastructure also planned to abduct an Israeli resident of one of the communities in Samaria and also launch a bomb attack on the Kalkilya Nablus road by placing explosives inside a dead donkey that would be placed at the roadside.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1081748016646&p=1078397702269

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Muddleoftheroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 07:08 AM
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1. I love the bit about AIDS infected blood
I think that is an upgrade from their previous attempts to use rat poison, which has an anti-coagulent. Ah the mind of the mass murdering terrorist...
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 08:15 AM
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2. Add that to the list of war crimes.
Just when you think they couldnt get any lower...
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 08:17 AM
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3. BTW........
I'm sooooo sure the ICJ will look into this any day now....


any day now.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 08:25 AM
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4. They're already laughing at it
Because it's the most ridiculous, likely untrue story I've ever heard.

This is because as soon as blood, or any bodily fluid contaminated with AIDS, comes into contact with the air, the AIDS virus is immediately killed. I guess you boys missed that part of health education class, huh?

But you may continue to post hate rhetoric at your leisure if it so pleases you.
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 08:27 AM
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5. Bull.
Edited on Tue Apr-13-04 08:35 AM by drdon326
The AIDS virus is not killed by air "immediately".

Where did you read that non-sense ??

now i will say the chance of getting INFECTED are very low, but
not impossible given the enormous breakd in the skin during suicide
bombing.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 08:40 AM
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6. here
Edited on Tue Apr-13-04 08:42 AM by sirjwtheblack
http://www2.gol.com/users/aidsed/i-read.html
scroll about half way down, under "Can I catch AIDS easily?"

http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/mole00/mole00032.htm
the entire page is about this

http://www.hivaidssearch.com/facts/hiv_aids_risk_body_fluids.htm
right at the top

and finally:
http://www.brown.edu/Student_Services/Health_Services/Health_Education/sexual_health/sti/aids.htm
Under the heading "How is it transmitted?"

Good enough for you?

On edit: One more from the CDC:
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/pubs/faq/faq35.htm
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 08:46 AM
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7. Not really...
from your article:

This virus is passed from an infected person to another person through blood-to-blood contact, sexual contact, or mother-to-infant contact. These body fluids have been proven to spread HIV:

Blood
Semen
Vaginal fluid
Breast milk
Other body fluids containing blood
HIV enters the body through cuts in the skin, open sores, tiny tears in the mucous membranes of the mouth, rectum, or vagina, and directly into the blood by a needle. It is generally accepted that the virus is transmitted through direct exposure to contaminated bodily fluids that have not been exposed to the air. HIV is commonly spread by:

Having unprotected sexual intercourse with someone who has the virus
Getting HIV-infected blood, semen, or vaginal secretions into open wounds or sores
Sharing needles or syringes with someone who has the virus
Being deeply punctured with a needle or surgical instrument contaminated with the virus
Passing from a woman to her infant during pregnancy, birth, or breast feeding
Receiving transfusions of blood products donated by someone who has the virus (although the risk of transmitting HIV by a screened blood transfusion is practically nonexistent. Since 1985, the US blood supply has been screened for HIV and is believed to be very safe.)
HIV cannot go through unbroken skin. In comparison
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"Being deeply punctured with a needle or surgical instrument contaminated with the virus"

i guess they didnt consider suicide murders.

No, the virus is not "killed immediately"....and the chance for infection is very low....but i'm sure the creeps who wanted to do this didnt know this.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 08:48 AM
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8. Read the CDC article
"Since the HIV concentrations used in laboratory studies are much higher than those actually found in blood or other specimens, drying of HIV-infected human blood or other body fluids reduces the theoretical risk of environmental transmission to that which has been observed - essentially zero."

And the blood we're talking about wouldn't be just sitting there in a carefully controlled environment. It would've been eradicated immediately, if not by the air, then by the fire from the explosion. Period.
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 08:51 AM
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9. I said....
the chance for transmission is low.....but i'm sure the
the lovely persons who wanted to perptuate this attack werent
to keen on statistics.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 09:58 AM
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11. Sure guys
Keep perpetuating that unsubstantiated hate propaganda. You seem to enjoy it.
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Muddleoftheroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 10:45 AM
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12. What is your claim?
That psycho fanatic murdering terrorists wouldn't stoop low enough to also do this while they are out deliberately murdering women and children?
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 10:58 AM
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13. My claim is that
you would stoop low enough in your fanaticism to cite an article with obvious inaccuracies to begin with in order to highlight the evils of your opposition while downplaying the evil of the people you defend.
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Muddleoftheroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 11:50 AM
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14. Highlighting evil
I don't think it's possible to overplay the evil of groups like Hamas.

And I don't think Israelis -- the people I defend -- are evil.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 12:39 PM
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15. That is the difference between you and I
I am willing to admit that both Hamas and the Israeli government are entities that do not represent the best wishes of the people they purport to, while you do not. No organization that murders the innocent can be less than evil, and both are very guilty of doing so.
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Muddleoftheroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 02:07 PM
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16. I don't compare a terrorist organization and a legit government
The differences is quite obvious. One, Hamas, actively seeks to kill innocents. The other, Israel, actively seeks to stop terrorists.

Comparing the two is like saying Elliott Ness and Al Capone were the same.

They weren't.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 02:13 PM
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17. "legit government"
Sharon's Israel is about as legit as Pol Pot's Cambodia.
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Muddleoftheroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 02:14 PM
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18. And where are the millions of dead?
And, I don't suppose you noticed that Sharon is democratically elected. Not that it will bother your smokescreen any.
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adriennui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 09:00 PM
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21. israel's government is elected by the people
does that make israelis evil?

seems to me that people like you insist on holding israel to a higher standard than any other country in the world. why.
i don't think you have any idea how israelis feel, i do know they don't preach hate or glorify death.
the palestinians as victims and the love affair many rads have with them is very perplexing. who sends mentally handicapped people to murder innocents....certainly not israel.
up is down? black is white? no is yes? is this the bizarro world?

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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 04:13 PM
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19. Don is an MD.
I'm sure he knows how HIV is transmitted. Yeesh. :eyes:
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Djinn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:20 PM
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20. my god really?
an MD that beleives that blowing a an "AIDS bomb" would be a viable way to infect people HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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Muddleoftheroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 09:24 AM
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10. The whole idea is terror
Edited on Tue Apr-13-04 09:24 AM by Muddleoftheroad
It's to terrifying anyone near a suicide bombing. It's to terrify medical personnel and keep them from rendering aid.
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