Three Gaza Terrorists Killed, Tel Aviv Attack Thwarted

[Gimel]

17:29 Mar 03, '04 / 10 Adar 5764


An Israel Air Force helicopter attack killed three Palestinian terrorists in Gaza this afternoon. Eight hours of intense police work yesterday afternoon and evening led to the thwarting of a major terrorist attack in the Tel Aviv area.

An Israel Air Force helicopter attack killed three Palestinian terrorists in Gaza this afternoon. The attack follows a rash of shooting incidents and other attempts by Arabs to murder Jews in Gaza - including mortars and bombings - in the past several days.

Eight hours of intense police work yesterday afternoon and evening led to the thwarting of a major terrorist attack in the Tel Aviv area. A gag order has been placed on the details of the operation, which included helicopters and quickly-erected checkpoints. Policemen flooded the streets, and citizens were even asked to report on suspicious characters. Traffic jams reached a length of several kilometers, and streets were abruptly closed and opened for no apparent reason.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=58864

[Resistance]

1. "attempts by Arabs to murder Jews"

nice wording by the racist Israel National News.

[Gimel]

2. Compare to the Haaretz report

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=124x58190

or wait till it comes out in ElectricIntifada. You'll get a whole new idea of who is what.

[JohnLocke]

3. "Murderous Jewish Apartheid Thugs Break Up Peaceful Bomb-Belt Demo"

That'll be Electronic Intifada's headline.

[drdon326]

4. Almost complete...

"Murderous Jewish Apartheid Thugs Break Up Peaceful Bomb-Belt Demo....

Proves They Are Descendants Of Pigs And Apes"

[JohnLocke]

5. That's the subhead.

Murderous Jewish Apartheid Thugs Break Up Peaceful Bomb-Belt Demo

Conclusive proof that Zionist infidels are descendants of pigs and apes

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Seriously, Electronic Intifada is nothing more than the Newsmax of extreme anti-Israel crowd.
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[drdon326]

6. Thats the funniest post in DU history.

standing ovation

[JohnLocke]

7. Thank you.

:yourock:

[Resistance]

11. A total distortion

Go to EI's website and show me one single story or headline that even comes close to the made-up story you've posted here.

Seriously - go take a look now, and come back with anything even close. (In other words, start backing up your fiction with some facts)

[Resistance]

17. get that story yet?

[Resistance]

18. find anything yet?

Tell you what, I'll narrow your search down for you.

Go ahead and find just one EI article describing Israelis as "the murderous Jews".

Just one.

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[Resistance]

31. still waiting for that EI article

which calls Israelis "the murderous Jews"....

[Violet_Crumble]

33. I hope yr not holding yr breath, Resistance...

You'd be waiting for something that doesn't exist. At least when I criticise a source I can back up what I say. This particular creation of a fake headline appears to be along the lines that criticism of Israel equals anti-Semitism. Mind you, I actually agree with drdon that it's one of the funniest posts I've seen at DU, but not for the same reason :)


Violet...

[Resistance]

37. STILL waiting

It's amazing - if the parody of an Electronic Intifada article is:

"Murderous Jewish Apartheid Thugs Break Up Peaceful Bomb-Belt Demo"

Then, wouldn't you think that at least one single article at EI's website would produce a phrase describing Israelis as "the murderous Jews"?

Still waiting.

[Resistance]

39. I am

going to go ahead and conclude, after five days waiting and no evidence, that the EI headline parody is something we can all dismiss now as total nonsense which had no basis in anything other than some seriously inaccurate assumptions.

I hope those assumptions have been corrected.

Is everyone with me on that?

[Gimel]

13. Possible

One resident, Majed Ibrahim Aaliyan, 30, was forced to walk in front of soldiers as they searched the three buildings.

A guide is not a human sheild. These were called a "civilian buildings", remember. That means the residents were unarmed, so how is it using human sheilds?

[Resistance]

10. that's totally misrepresentative of EI

they never stereotype Jews as "Apartheid Thugs".

You need to back up your misrepresentation - starting now. Because I'll give the proof that Israel National News posts racist material. But you go to EI's website, and I am telling you, you will not find any racist material there, and certainly nothing coming close to your depiction of an EI headline.

[Scurrilous]

8. Electronic Intifada's take...

...on this weekends festivities:

http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article2480.shtml

Israeli forces kill 14 Palestinians and leave 80 wounded in refugee camps in Gaza

<snip>

"An Israeli military attack in a Palestinian residential area in the central Gaza Strip conducted today, Sunday 7 March 2004, left dead 14 Palestinians, including four children, and more than 80 others, including 26 children, wounded.

According to preliminary investigations conducted by PCHR, at around 03:00 this morning, Israeli forces, including heavy military vehicles and aircraft, moved from the Netzarim settlement, southwards along Salah al Din Street to a point between Al-Nusseirat and Al-Bureij refugee camps. Troops then moved from Salah Al Din Street west into Al-Nusseirat camp.

Israeli forces raided three civilian residential buildings owned by the Quweider, Aaliyan and Ghazal families. Soldiers detained the residents inside the buildings. One resident, Majed Ibrahim Aaliyan, 30, was forced to walk in front of soldiers as they searched the three buildings. Soldiers set up sniper positions on the top floors of the properties. At approximately 6am, more Israeli troops entered the camp. During the incursion, Israeli troops opened fire randomly into the streets of the camp, including from the positions taken in the three houses. Eyewitnesses reported that Israeli helicopters flying overhead also opened fire in the area."

<snip>

"Israeli troops withdrew at approximately 09:30. During the incursion, Israeli troops engaged in armed clashes with Palestinian resistance groups. During these clashes, 10 members of the Palestinian resistance were killed. Members of the resistance killed in this incursion were reported as Mohammed Ismail al Shatali, 21; Shadi Abed As-Saidni, 21; Faris Fatehi al Hawajri, 25; Omar Mohammed al Jamal, 18; Hazem Rauhi Aqel, 20; Ahmed Hassan Harb, 22; Khaled Qassem al Hazqi, 23; Moussa Manar Hemo, 25; Yousef Mahmoud As-Sinwar, 26; Hassan Ahmed Zuhud, 42."

Seems like pretty straightforward reporting to me. Wherein lies the rub?

[drdon326]

9. Riiiiiight...

". During the incursion, Israeli troops opened fire randomly into the streets of the camp, including from the positions taken in the three houses."

randomly , huh??

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[Violet_Crumble]

34. Yes, randomly...

When troops fire randomly that's how it tends to get described. Pretty straightforward...

Violet...

[Resistance]

12. Wow, that's EI's take?

Where's the talk about murderous Jews? Where is the "look what the Zionist descendants of pigs did"? Where's the "MURDEROUS JEWISH APARTHEID THUGS" story?

:shrug:

[Gimel]

14. Here it is!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=124&topic_id=58045&mesg_id=58113&page=

[Resistance]

16. once again

Where is the talk about "murderous Jews" and "Jewish Apartheid Thugs"?

:shrug:

It wasn't there either.

(btw, I'm wondering something - since I asked for documentation in the EI article, why respond with a comment made by me?)

[Gimel]

19. No you didn't

You didn't ask for documentation. You asked for "talk about murderous Jews", and what I gave you is exactly that (in your own words).

[Resistance]

20. Read the entire message please, thanks

My post says: "Wow, that's EI's take? Where's the talk about murderous Jews?" -Clearly, I am referring to the EI article. How is this possibly unclear?

And by the way, since you want to go down that track,my commentary (which isn't what I asked for in the first place) has nothing to do with talk about "murderous Jews" - where have I ever once called Israelis "the murderous Jews"?

Where? Show me one single comment ever made where I call Israelis "the murderous Jews".

[Gimel]

22. I guess

you can't see the trees for the forest.

[Resistance]

26. I'm waiting for an answer

Where have I ever described Israelis as "the murderous Jews"?

Since you've made the implication that this is my view, please back it up. Where have I ever said such a thing?

[Resistance]

30. well?

Where have I said anything even close to calling Israelis "the murderous Jews"?

[Violet_Crumble]

35. That would be an incorrect guess...

First off, if you go back and read the thread you'll discover that there was an accusation made that EI headlines use the words 'murderous Jewish apartheid thugs'. Resistance asked not once, but several times to be given an example of EI using that sort of anti-Semitic language. The only attempt at an example he was given was a link to one of his own posts where he said: 'The IDF are nothing but thugs and terrorists.' Any attempts to morph that into 'murderous Jewish apartheid thugs' is so much of a stretch that it'd need a rubber band reaching from here to the West Bank to achieve it. I certainly hope the road wasn't being travelled where any criticism of the IDF equates to anti-Semitism, because it seems to be the same path where people act as though any criticism of Israel is anti-Semitism...

Violet...

[Gimel]

15. On the other hand...

take a closer look. Two of the children are over the age of 15, which is the legal age, according to GC for combat use.

The children killed were identified as Mahmoud Abdullah Younis, 11; Mohammed Amer Abu Zuraiq, 12; Mohammed Ali Bedawi, 15; and Haitham Mohammed Al Issawi, 16.

Two of the four are legitimate for carrying arms. Yet, they are listed here as civilian, and not part of the "Resistance groups", based solely on age.


A cute picture:

http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article2474.shtml

[Noon_Blue_Apples]

21. thats it? that's all you guys have after the hysterics.

what a joke

between this and 'randomly'...lol

pathetic

[Gimel]

23. Israel radio and TV

is reporting that the children were killed by grenades thrown by the Palestinians.

[Resistance]

27. So what?

American radio and TV (under orders from the Bush admin) tries to connect Saddam Hussein with 9/11. What's your point?

[Gimel]

29. Adding info

Is that a waste of time to you? The IE is biased reporting.

[Violet_Crumble]

36. There's a difference between bias and bigotry...

While EI may well be biased, it's not bigoted. The claim was made that EI is bigoted, something which no-one has yet provided any evidence of. Bias is a completely different thing. Sources can be biased and still be credible, while others tend to be less credible. An example of the less credible side of things would be JPost (which misquoted Erekat), and the IDF itself (have we got enough fingers and toes to keep count of the incorrect comments they've made?). Something no-one can deny is that JPost and the IDF are biased. But if someone were to believe that because EI is biased that makes it bigoted, then they also have to believe that because JPost and the IDF are biased then they're also bigoted....

Violet...

[Jim Sagle]

28. Not nice, but truthful. And on what grounds do you label them racist?

[Resistance]

32. on grounds of all the blatantly racist commentary

that Israel National News posts. They don't even hide it.

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