Peres: Israel must give up all of West Bank and Gaza

[Scurrilous]

http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/397754.html

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"Labor Party Chairman and former prime minister Shimon Peres said in a speech in Washington that Israel has no moral claim to the land or to Gaza and must give up every inch of the territories.

Peres, speaking Monday after meetings earlier in the day with Secretary of State Colin Powell and national security adviser Condoleezza Rice, said "time is short" - no more than four months - for Israel to come to terms with Palestinian Prime Minister Ahmed Qureia."

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"While Prime Minister Ariel Sharon has proposed a withdrawal from Gaza and part of the West Bank, Peres said the offer was inadequate and would only perpetuate conflict with the Palestinians.

Israel must give up all of the land that it captured in the 1967 Middle East war, he said. "If you keep 10 percent of the land you keep 100 percent of the conflict," Peres said."

[JasonDeter]

1. By voting you out Mr Peres

The Israeli citizens said they no longer valued your opinion. They understood if you give the terrorists an inch they'll want a mile. An ounce of flesh for a pound of prevention in this case is not enough to appease those who hate you. If the arafats truely wanted peace with you Peres then arafat wouldn't have turned down the deal made during the Clinton administration. So sit down Mr. Peres, the adults are in charge.

[ex_jew]

2. Since when is an 83-year old not an adult ?

I especially like his comment about "keep 10% of the West Bank and you'll have 100% of the trouble". Maybe the "adults" should remember that. With the "peace wall" on its way to following the Green Line, I think Peres may have the last laugh.

[JasonDeter]

5. Peres is naive in his thinking

if he thinks giving in to terrorists will bring safety to the innocent citizens of Israel. Children are irrational in their thinking. Peres was reached out to by Sharon and like a child Peres rejected the adult overture. What I admire about the Israeli leadership is their lack of fear in the face of a world riddled with hypocricy. Take Jordon as one example, half their population is Palestinian and yet they argue a tiny tiny speck of land in comparison to Jordan is the Palestinian homeland! How ridiculas is that?! Plus the Palestinians are very very prosperous in Jordan, THAT is what has the Jordanian despot so worried and trembling before the Hague pleading for the wall to be taken down. "THEY'RE TO PROSPERUOUS IN MY COUNTRY!" he cries. "IF THE WALL IS NOT TAKEN DOWN THEY WILL LEAVE THE WEST BANK AND COME INTO JORDAN AND UPSET THE DELICATE BALANCE (IRON HAND CONTROL) AND MAYBE THEY'LL CALL FOR DEMOCRATIC ELECTIONS IN JORDAN AND THEN I WOULD BE KICKED OUT!" he whimpered. Its hard for me to take serious any who appease despots and terrorists. Peres should shut up and sit down and enjoy his last years among his grandchildren.

[ex_jew]

8. Lack of fear is admirable in soldiers, less so in politicians

Peres stresses that Israel has no *moral* right to the West Bank. Until that situation is cleared up, nothing good will happen. It's like saying - I have to keep my foot on your neck because if I don't, you might attack me. Well, yes I may. But you can't even know what is possible while things remain as they are. Why stick with a policy that is failing ?

[JasonDeter]

9. If the Palestinians have a moral right to the West Bank

Then they have just as much right to the East Bank. Lets say all the territory of Amman and even Amman as the Palestinian capital?

[ex_jew]

13. Sorry, I'm only repeating what Peres said !

The length of time needed to make possession of land "moral" is a vexed issue. I would certainly agree with you on that.

[sushi]

11. I like his comment too

and I agree with him. Israel should do the right thing, and that is give up the territories it now occupies.

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[JasonDeter]

4. Talk to me like a 2 year old, what does nm stand for?

[Carl21014]

6. No message

You can skip the body because nothing there.

[JasonDeter]

7. Oh...............................nm.

[Comadreja]

10. Zionist Garrisons

"A voluntary reconciliation with the Arabs is out of the question either now or in the future. If you wish to colonize a land in which people are already living, you must provide a garrison for the land, or find some rich man or benefactor who will provide a garrison on your behalf. Or else-or else, give up your colonization, for without an armed force which will render physically impossible any attempt to destroy or prevent this colonization, colonization is impossible, not difficult, not dangerous, but IMPOSSIBLE!... Zionism is a colonization adventure and therefore it stands or falls by the question of armed force. It is important... to speak Hebrew, but, unfortunately, it is even more important to be able to shoot - or else I am through with playing at colonizing."Vladimir Jabotinsky, founder of Revisionist Zionism (precursor of Likud), The Iron Wall, 1923.

[Forkboy]

12. It'll never happen because it makes too much sense

and niether side wants anything to do with logic.