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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 06:54 AM
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Eight Palestinians killed in Israeli raid
Wednesday 28 January 2004, 14:34 Makka Time, 11:34 GMT

Eight Palestinians have been killed by Israeli soldiers in one of their deadliest raids in Gaza.

Palestinian medics said gun battles erupted when Israeli tanks raided the edge of Gaza city on Wednesday. The Palestinian resistance group Islamic Jihad said at least five of its fighters were killed.

"The bloody message has been received…and the Palestinian people will know how to respond to it," an Islamic Jihad leader Muhammad al-Hindi said.

An Israeli army spokesman claimed soldiers had launched a raid to rout Palestinian fighters who frequently shoot mortars at the neighbouring Jewish settlement of Netzarim.

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http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/77B6D038-EF01-4C0F-97DB-541D87BD62BE.htm

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Resistance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 10:41 AM
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1. and the "lull in violence" goes on
Edited on Wed Jan-28-04 10:41 AM by Resistance
as Israeli invasions and terror operations continue.
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Gimel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 10:45 AM
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2. Without
five Islamic Jihad militants. The lull in the violence, there is not. Let there be no more terror attacks on Israeli citizens, and militants break their own swords and use them to dig their own potatoes.
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Resistance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 10:52 AM
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3. The Israelis are the ones invading here
in case you failed to notice.
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GabysPoppy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 12:36 PM
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4. And 5 terrorists are dead
in case you failed to notice
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Resistance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 01:12 PM
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5. Who says they are terrorists?
Edited on Wed Jan-28-04 01:13 PM by Resistance
Some Palestinians fired back because Israeli troops invaded their land with tanks.

What if Palestinian groups invaded Israel with tanks? Would Israel not fire back?
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GabysPoppy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 01:19 PM
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6. Did you miss this part?
"The Palestinian resistance group Islamic Jihad said at least five of its fighters were killed."

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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 01:25 PM
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7. LOL
.
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Aidoneus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 01:40 PM
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8. did you miss this part?
Edited on Wed Jan-28-04 01:52 PM by Aidoneus
..."killed by Israeli soldiers in one of their deadliest raids in Gaza"...

It may have been on edit (and thus you had replied before he altered it.. or not, since the times are 10:13am for his edit, 10:19am for your reply), but Resistance puts forward a good point:--

Some Palestinians fired back because Israeli troops invaded their land with tanks.

What if Palestinian groups invaded Israel with tanks? Would Israel not fire back?

Do you have an answer for this? Would Israelis fire back if al-Qassam sent 50 APCs and tanks down Tel Aviv's Jabotinsky Street?
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Resistance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 02:24 PM
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24. I guess
firing at tanks that are invading your land makes one a terrorist.
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 01:47 PM
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9. So all members of terrorist groups are terrorists?
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GabysPoppy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 01:54 PM
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10. What would you have them called?
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Aidoneus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 02:00 PM
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11. "people defending their city from an invasion"
for staters..
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GabysPoppy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 02:04 PM
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12. Does that infer you are supportive of this and other terror organizations?
Palestinian resistance group Islamic Jihad being the group being talked about in this thread.
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Aidoneus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 02:49 PM
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17. Not to seem like a hypocrite, but I cannot respond with a simple answer.
(me being such for the partial evasion of your question, but I have better reasons than those who constantly evade mine)

I cannot give you a plain 'yes'/'no' answer to that. While I am not fond of the human-bombs inside Israeli cities, I have no problems when the Israeli military is fired on when it invades cities & camps in the other occupied lands. In fact, I am in favour of every bullet fired and every rock thrown at these hostile invaders.

If the al-Quds & al-Qassam brigades were sending a column of tanks through downtown Tel Aviv, I would likewise not raise an eyebrow or a hysterical polemic when it is fired upon. Such is a very natural response to any invasion for any people that I can think of, no matter what linguistic gymnastics and propandistic sophistry could be mustered up to try and justify it.

It should be obvious I do not see the world in the same way as you do, thus I will not refer to things in the same terms.
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 02:14 PM
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14. Militants, or some variation of that term.
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GabysPoppy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 02:18 PM
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15. Purveyors of terrorism fits better
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 02:21 PM
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16. Give me a break....
if your a member of a terrorist group, congratulations...
youre a terrorist.

in this case the 5 were palestinian terrorists...
aka TERRORSTINIANS.LOL
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 04:20 PM
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20. Really?
So what, in your view, is a terrorist organization?
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JasonDeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 02:12 PM
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13. "an Islamic Jihad leader Muhammad al-Hindi said."
"the Palestinian people will know how to respond to it,"

"an Islamic Jihad leader Muhammad al-Hindi said."

Once again a radical terrorist group claims to speak for the Palestinian people! That would be equal to Louis Farrakan speaking for the United States. I'm saddened that the Palestinian people have no champion.
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Aidoneus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 03:34 PM
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18. 13 dead in all by now, many dozens more injured
Edited on Wed Jan-28-04 03:35 PM by Aidoneus
the lull marches on.
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Resistance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 03:47 PM
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19. remind me something
which side was the "terrorists" again? It is impossible to distinguish these days.
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Aidoneus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 10:51 PM
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22. the ones who don't look like me and have the wrong flag
that's about the only coherent definition that I can sift out.
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Resistance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:18 AM
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23. Hmm
how about this for a definition: Anyone who the United States and Israel feel like calling their enemy.

How's that work?
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Resistance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 10:45 PM
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21. 11-year-old boy among eight killed in Israeli tank raid on Gaza City
Edited on Wed Jan-28-04 10:46 PM by Resistance
(nothing to see here, keep moving along please)

The Independent


At least eight Palestinians were killed in an Israeli raid into Gaza City yesterday - among them an 11-year-old boy, according to Palestinian doctors.

Dr Muawiya Hassanein of Gaza's al-Shifa Hospital said an 11-year old boy was among the dead. The other civilians were Musa Dalul, 32, a local stonemason, and Sameh Toteh, a 17-year-old mechanic. The other five dead were believed to be militants - four from Islamic Jihad, and one from Hamas.
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Resistance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 05:28 PM
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25. Who was it who keeps saying
"The IDF only kills terrorists"?
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