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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 06:54 PM
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Irish Foreign Minister Attacks Israel's Security Barrier
http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=2414557

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"Irish Foreign Minister Brian Cowen today criticised the security barrier that Israel is building in the West Bank.

His remarks during a visit to the country were seen as serving notice that the new leadership of the European Union is likely to put more pressure on the Israeli government than its predecessor."

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"His criticism of the Israeli barrier was in sharp contrast to the generally pro-Israeli tone set by the Italian government, which held the EU’s rotating presidency until Ireland took it over January 1."

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"“From the Palestinian perspective, (the barrier) understandably appears to be an attempt to redraw the 1967 frontiers,” he said."


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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 07:00 PM
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1. Since those frontiers were never agreed on, who the hell cares?
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Resistance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 07:01 PM
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2. Tell that to the Palestinian families
Edited on Thu Jan-15-04 07:01 PM by Resistance
being kicked out of their homes so that Israel can steal more land.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 08:17 PM
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3. Consult an ME map and then get back to me.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 11:32 PM
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7. !!


Map from the Perry-Castañeda Library, University of Texas

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 12:25 AM
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meti57b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 08:36 PM
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4. Palestinian families ...
are NOT being kicked out of their homes so Israel can steal their land.
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Resistance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 10:12 PM
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5. Yes they are.
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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 11:16 PM
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6. yes they are !!!
its a fact !!!!
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Muddleoftheroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 11:39 PM
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8. Only if you apply the same rules to every nation that builds roads
Major projects displace people. It happens. Roads, stadiums, fences all displace people for the greater good.
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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 12:24 AM
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9. yes , I'll apply the same rules to all nations that run people off
thier land, like in South America, or anywhere else..
SH"It happens. Roads, stadiums, fences all displace people for the greater good". greater (corporate, big money) good
................yea thats progess, pave the world over..
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Muddleoftheroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 09:18 AM
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12. It IS progress
We need roads. We need bridges. Many places CHOOSE to build stadiums. And, in the case here, Israel NEEDS the fence for security for both peoples.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 09:30 AM
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13. There's a problem here, Muddle
A Palestinian who has been displaced in order to build a road might appreciate it better if he were permitted to travel on it. He might also appreciate it better if he were part of the decision-making process that mandated he should be displaced for the road.

There is no way that system can be justified. It is wrong.

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Muddleoftheroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 09:35 AM
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14. You know, I see the same complaints in the news here in the U.S.
The Peace Fence is not a road. It is a security device. You can't really "use" it. It exists for the safety of the majority.

And no, when governments take actions like that, you don't get a say in the matter. That said, I would fight strongly for anyone so impacted to be legally compensated for land taken by emminent domain.
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Gimel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 01:22 AM
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11. They opposed the fence on the Green Line
They have just altered their refutation to fit the circumstances. They would scream bloody murder wherever it is located.
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