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plurality Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 04:17 PM
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Wrath redux : Is there but one effective way to end the hate and madness?
Edited on Tue Dec-30-03 04:19 PM by plurality
If you look at the title, doesn't sound too bad, let's end the hate and the madness, sounds good to me, how do we do this? Read on.

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/1203/kanfer__wrath_redux.php3

When two Turkish synagogues were bombed last month, the usual crocodile condemnations issued from most world capitals. Israelis took another view. Three different groups of code words are used when members of the Jewish state discuss atrocities.


One is the "Masada Complex," a reference to the Jewish revolutionaries who held out against Roman legions, then killed themselves rather than submit to foreign rule. It is assumed by the Israeli left that Ariel Sharon displays such a complex, fearing that the world is against him, and forcing his country into a suicidal position.


The second is "The Samson Option," a reference to Prime Minister Golda Meir's supposed threat in 1973, when the combined armies of Egypt and Syria attacked Israel on Yom Kippur eve. Even today no one is quite sure what happened in Washington D.C. It is only known that after a phone call to Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, the Nixon administration airlifted arms and munitions, allowing Israel to defend itself with conventional weapons. The current Broadway play, Golda's Balcony, claims that the PM was within hours of authorizing the use of Israel's nuclear arsenal: like Sampson, the Jewish state would take down its enemies even as it perished.


The third group of code words has been heard less often in the recent past. But with the rise of anti-Semitism, prompted by the millions of Muslims now changing the face, politics and ethics of Europe, it is being talked about with increasing decibels. This is called "Operation Wrath of G-d."

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It was first used after the murder of 11 Israeli athletes at the Munich Olympics of 1972. The late Avery Brundage, then head of the IOC, displayed his customary toilet-seat sensitivity, declaring that the Olympics "must go on" after the massacre. And so they did. But something else went on shortly afterward. That was the decision on the part of the Israeli government to seek revenge on those who would attack unarmed and defenseless Jews.


Disclaimer: My input below

Killing the Olympic terrorists is an example of Wrath of G-d. I perhaps would have tried them, but on this I can't find much fault. But evidently it appears that 'Wrath of G-d' implies striking violently at your enemies, again, understandable, but, let's look a little further and see where he thinks 'Wrath of G-d' should be used.

Back to article:

Licensed or unlicensed, Jews have a right to protect themselves and to take down those who would murder them. Temples have a right to have 24-hour guards, and to keep the foe at bay by whatever means necessary. But better still, that foe should be sought out, threatened, and, when possible, annihilated. As numerous incidents in Europe, and lately on U.S. campuses demonstrate, Jew-hatred is in fashion as it has not been since Hitler's time, disguised in the mask of the pro-Palestinian cause. It is long past time to reinstitute Operation Wrath of G-d. Despite protests by people and nations who wish Israel had never been created, the policy of revenge was very effective last time. And it can be again.

Ahhh, now I see the point. He's saying members of college pro-Palestenian groups should be executed... how civilized.

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bluesoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 04:20 PM
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1. My god
what RW filth this is. This must be the worst of the kind I have seen from "pro-Israel sources". Good find!
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plurality Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 04:25 PM
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3. pretty insane huh?
haven't heard much of the jewishworldreview before, but will have to keep more of an eye out for it.
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meti57b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 05:17 PM
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4. The Israeli Army did NOT execute Rachel Corrie and Tom Hurndall.
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Resistance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 05:19 PM
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5. Yes they did.
Rachel Corrie was bulldozed to death, and about a month later Tom Hurndall was shot in the head. In the meantime, an attempt was made on the life of Brian Avery when an Israeli soldier shot him in the face.

Luckily, Brian survived.
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SwellGround Donating Member (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 05:22 PM
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6. Well that's not how I read it
What happened to these two were terrible accidents and we can only hope they never happen again. As for describing them as murders and or executions is a matter of opinion and not productive to a peaceful resoultion of any future accidents. And the last word on suffering was that the house Corrie was guarding was a tunnel system to transport kid bombs to kill innocent Israeli people when they least expected it such as eating dinner of riding on a bus. No a good and proper way to spread peace.

The risks involved with courting suicide bombers and defending them against defenders of Israeli safety are very dangerous.
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 05:35 PM
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7. That was a post full of nothing but opinion...
Resistance believes Rachel Corrie was murdered. You go to the other extreme and insist it was a terrible accident, which is also a matter of opinion. Until there's an independent investigation into her death, it's all a matter of opinion...

Describing ISM activists as 'courting suicide bombers' is a matter of opinion and not productive to a peaceful resolution of any future accidents, as is the claim that the house to be demolished was being demolished because of a tunnel system. The owner of the house is a Palestinian doctor and he was giving interviews to the media in the days after Rachel Corries death. If his house was being used for the purpose you claim it was, then why was he not arrested? What I read was that the house was being demolished to make a buffer zone around an Israeli guardpost...

Violet....
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Resistance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 08:03 PM
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9. I trust the four eyewitnesses
who all say the killing was intentional.

I don't trust the army that did the killing and say that this (and other killings and shootings) were all accidents.

Very reasonable conclusions, really. Although I can understand your position, Violet, that we'll never know until a real investigation is conducted. But then again, the killers are the ones blocking the investigation -- to me that just screams 'Duh! That's cause they did it!'
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 07:40 PM
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8. Ah yes, kill for peace.
I'm sure it will be most effective.
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