2 Palestinians shot dead in Gaza; Int'l volunteers rounded up

[Resistance]

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Two Palestinians shot dead in Gaza while international volunteers are rounded up in Belata refugee camp

Two Palestinians were killed by Israeli soldiers in the Gaza Strip yesterday as they went to rent a plot of land.

Wael abu Daharuj (26) and his friend Younis Assawerka (29), from the town of Jebalia in the northern area of the Gaza Strip, had traveled to the town of Beit Hanoun to rent a piece of land and begin work cultivating it. According to his family, Younis had already rented a plot of land in the area and had encouraged Wael to rent a plot nearby. This land is located next to the border with Israel.

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Meanwhile in Belata refugee camp near Nablus, three international volunteers were rounded up and interrogated by Israeli occupying forces. An American girl was seized by Israeli soldiers, beaten with the butt of a gun and dragged into a military jeep. When two of her friends went to find her they were also arrested and taken for questioning outside the camp.

The incident represents another attempt to intimidate international activists opposed to the Israeli occupation, and to deter new supporters of the Palestinian cause from coming to the region to work and bear witness to Israeli atrocities against Palestinians. The Israeli troops have repeatedly tried, unsuccessfully, to harass international volunteers working to sustain the truth about Israel’s crimes in the West Bank and Gaza, and maintain international support for the Palestinians.

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[Tinoire]

1. Nothing to see here folks. Move along

Nothing to see here...

[Resistance]

12. exactly

it's just anti-Israel propaganda anyway. Probably made the whole thing up

[papau]

2. Are these the same ones that had the bombs, and were with 2 others,

also with bombs, who were arrested, and disarmed?

Not that this is spin - I just do not know the reference for the above article, but the arrest of 2 with bombs and the killing of 2 next to the border with Gaza was reported on the wire.

In any case, I pray for both the Israelis and the Palistinians to adopt Geneva - and forgo the forever war status that is "right of return".

[kalian]

3. I saw we nuke the site from orbit....just to be sure....

:eyes:

[Aidoneus]

4. end the Israeli "Law of Return" too?

The hypocrisy there is astounding, even for this.

[Blitz]

5. Details, details

"The Israeli army and media have claimed that the two friends were shot trying to break through the border fence and enter Israel."

Nah, couldn't be. Must be IDF murderers.

As for arresting ISM and their ilk, good!! They're in Israel and the territories illegally and should be tried and, if found guilty, fined, imprisoned for an appropriate period of years and then deported. No country on earth would put up with foreign nationals sneaking in to support its enemies. Neither should Israel.

[Darranar]

6. Never mind.

[Blitz]

7. Happy Holidays Darranar

eom.

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[Resistance]

10. Israel obviously doesn't put up with peaceful protest

Given that they bulldozed Rachel Corrie to death and have shot others in the face and head.

[bpilgrim]

18. 'terrorist suck-ups' look whos talk'n

oh, that's right you don't actually support sharon.

lucky for you, eh... you get to discriminate.

happy hunting

:hi:

peace

[number6]

9. whaaa....t

"As for arresting ISM and their ilk, good!! They're in Israel and the territories illegally
and should be tried and, if found guilty, fined, imprisoned for an appropriate period of years (how nice)
and then deported. No country on earth would put up with foreign nationals sneaking in to support its enemies."

heh we could do dat here in our own Bu$h Police STATE
imprison peaceful protesters for years ....

[Blitz]

11. We do that now

So do other countries.

People who come here illegally and break the law are imprisoned. When their term of incarceration is up, they are deported. If they fight deportation, they remain in federal custody (with no possibility of bail) for the entire term of the deportation process. Currently, I represent a young man that the DHS is trying to deport. A May, 2003 Supreme Court decision effectively revoked bail for everyone in his position (in deportation proceedings as a result of criminal activity). I won his deportation case and he was ordered released. Where is he now? In prison, since the government appealed. My brief is due in a couple of weeks. Once that's done, he'll sit in prison for about 6 months until the Board of Immigration Appeals, which is dealing with a huge backlog, rules on his case. Then he'll either be released or sent out of the country permanently. I promised his mom I'd keep him here, so I guess I'll have to win.

The point? Israel treats people with kid gloves while other countries, including the U.S. are hyper-aggressive with much less cause to be so.

[number6]

13. The point?

People who come here illegally and break the law usually aren't
peace protestors, there looking for work, peace activist in Israel
aren't lookin for a job, there looking to stop injustice

International activists have already played a significant role in bringing attention to the Occupation, and protecting Palestinians who try to protest Israeli brutality peacefully. The usual response of the Israeli military to peaceful demonstrations by Palestinians is to fire tear gas, rubber-coated bullets, and sometimes live ammunition at the crowds.

http://www.ism-london.org/aims.html

The non-violence ground-rules for the ISM are as follows :-

Our attitude will be one of sincerity and respect toward all the people we encounter
We will not engage in physical violence or verbal abuse toward any individual
We will carry no weapons
We will not bring or use any alcohol or drugs other than for medical purposes
We will respect all the various agreements concerning the actions
We will act safely at all times and act responsibly to ensure that no harm comes to any living being including ourselves

[Resistance]

14. .........

Respect, non-violence, no weapons, responsible.

How could Israel murder these people? Bulldoze to death a young college student! Shoot another in the face. And another killed by a shot to the head. Others beaten, harrassed and on top of it smeared for wanting peace, like we shouldn't feel sorry for them.

Only terrorists treat people this way.

[corporatewhore]

15. you are right my friend went to israel/palestine

via ism (she is not acollege kid but forty year old woman) When she stayed in jersualem for a while she told me she was affraid for her life that she would be killed by a suicide bomber and then she went over to the occupied territories near jenin and she said that what her and the group she was with mainly did was help with taking care of the children. When the tanks came rollin in the adults knew to get out of sight but the kids (ie six seven eight)would come out and try to challenge them sorta and they would try to go between the kidsand the tanks( because they had the luxury of having an international status) or help herd them away from them.She also told me about how the idf would really humiliate and degrade the internationals for no reason.Needless to say at the end of her trip she was more affaid of the idf than suicide bombers

[Gimel]

16. Six and Seven year olds challening tanks?

When the tanks came rollin in the adults knew to get out of sight but the kids (ie six seven eight)would come out and try to challenge

Why didn't the adults take the children with them? They should know to do that first, rather than run for cover and leave their kids in the streets. That is one of the biggest fallicies of this whole thing, that children are targeted.

[corporatewhore]

17. from her report

the children were hard to control in the chaotic situation and often times the mothers had more than one child.apparently the children wanted to throw rocks and taunt the soliders in the tank

[bpilgrim]

19. in some brownshirts wet dream

i know rush and crew dream of such a america but they usually don't even get looked up let alone locked up unless it's for a job buying drugs for'em and other types of dirty work we don't wanna do.

and you'd be hard pressed to come up with more than a handful who actually spent YEARS in jail for immigration violations.

but that day may not be far off if the neoCONs have their way with us.

peace

[Resistance]

28. definitely not that far off

The amazing thing is how willing we seem to be in going along with it

[Aidoneus]

24. juristdiction?

These internationals were not abducted anywhere within Israel--they were seized by the invading occupation forces in Nablus..

[Aidoneus]

25. too subtle?

[Resistance]

26. It's just a small detail

(sarcastic)

Besides, they're peace workers and we can't have peace in PalestineIsrael can we - too much trouble. Better to send the IDF out on hunting trips in the ghetto

[Resistance]

27. the ghetto being the O/T of course

[Resistance]

29. yep the IDF are murderers

they murdered Rachel Corrie and Tom Hurndall in cold blood.

[Resistance]

20. they just keep on killin 'em don't they?

And then demand that Palestinians renounce violence

[bluesoul]

21. No suicide attacks in Israel for 10 weeks now

and numerous Palestinian civilians killed in the meantime. Peace Sharon style...

[Resistance]

22. yeah

murdering Palestinian civilians and non-violent peace workers is the 'Peaceful' approach.

[Resistance]

23. I guess the title

should have read that "terror-supporting hate-mongers rounded up" - this would justify beating the girl up and arresting her friends.