Lebensraum as a justification for Israeli settlements

[azurnoir]

Until now Israel had supported the occupation of the territories with two pillars: history and security - its right to inherit the land and its obligation to defend it. In recent weeks a third pillar was added, which all these years was hidden under straw and stubble. And maybe it's not a pillar but a snake, whose head must be crushed while it's still small.

According to the school of thought based on history and faith, the Land of Israel was received by the Jewish people from the hand of God, and we are commanded to take all of it by dint of the Covenant of the Pieces that God made with Abraham. That was a nice big gift, we have to admit, stretching from the river of Egypt to the great river, the Euphrates. It was granted on various festive occasions not only to Abraham but to his heirs as well. Eventually it was forced to shrink, and now there is really no reason to shrink it further out of choice.

The second, security-based school of thought stipulates that we need virtually all the territories for self-defense. Without them we'll never be able to live in security without feeling threatened. Therefore, if we are ever forced to leave certain parts of the country, even then we'll evacuate only in order to remain, relying forever on temporary "security arrangements," which even social-welfare-oriented MK Shelly Yachimovich will sign.

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When we embarked on the Six-Day War did we want to remove a threat or did we want to gain control in order to spread out? That's what happens after 44 years of mire and moral corruption, which distort things and make us forget the original objective and replace it with an entirely different one. We were fortunate when we occupied the West Bank because had we not done so, where would we have come to live? And who knows how high housing prices would have risen? The divine promise is now being revealed in all its ability to prophesy about real estate.

http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/opinion/lebensraum-as-a-justification-for-israeli-settlements-1.380787

[no_hypocrisy]

1. What was Israel planning on doing with its future population if the Six Day War

hadn't happened?

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[ChairmanAgnostic]

3. Some in Israel recognize it, and it makes them nauseous

Others, particularly many in Knesset seem to be wearing historical blinders. That second group is the one that too many Americans believe in, and think that they can do no wrong.

[King_David]

5. What do you mean ?

Please elaborate . Help us understand your comments .

[Tesha]

6. Sorry, I don't rise to bait. (NT)

[bemildred]

8. "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink."

:thumbsup:

[King_David]

9. Without an explanation we can just surmise

That it was what I suspect?

And that is disgusting , and against the rules here at DU.

[Tesha]

10. What? Your surmise is disgusting? Then stop doing it! (NT)

[King_David]

11. oops the disgusting post was deleted,I guess that ends it. nt

[azurnoir]

12. well ya'd think so anyway and darn I didn't even 'get' to see the post n/t

[Tesha]

13. Oh how lucky for you. (NT)

[bemildred]

4. Eh, the "want it" comes first, then one invents some reasons for being entitled to it.

And the illusion that one is different and occupies some sort of central position in the scheme of things, that is always a favored reason for getting what one wants.

[Jefferson23]

7. Well done OP. Over and over again, like a broken record..the skip repeats:

SECURITY!

"It often happens that members of the security school - people who do not lead a religious way of life - put a knitted skullcap on and then prophesy in the same messianic style. And the opposite happens as well: Rabbis and students bring up reasons in the name of security so as not to rely on the promise alone." (end)