Hamas Not Likely Behind Jerusalem Bombing

[Purveyor]

Despite the escalation, Hamas does not seem to want large-scale clashes yet. The organization actually has good reasons to believe that Israel is the one heating up the southern front.

By Amos Harel and Avi Issacharoff

Is there a direct connection among the recent string of security incidents - the murder in Itamar, the escalation around the Gaza Strip, the Grad rockets on Be'er Sheva and the terror attack in Jerusalem? That was one of the questions occupying defense and government officials on Wednesday.

At this point, the answer is still unclear.

In any case, the bombing in Jerusalem cut short a period of almost three years of calm in the capital. It is a significant turn for the worse for the city, which managed only with great difficulty to extricate itself from the second intifada.

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http://www.haaretz.com/blogs/mess-report/hamas-not-likely-behind-jerusalem-bombing-1.351459

[Taverner]

1. "But they kill THEIR OWN PEOP-um..what's that? They're on OUR side? Nevermind"

[aquart]

2. WTF are you trying to say?

[Taverner]

3. Ambiguous enough to place either the IDF or Hamas in ones head...

I wouldn't put it past either group to massacre their own in some Rovian game

[azurnoir]

4. Lol n/t

[King_David]

5. You need read up more.

Thats just way off base. Bullshit !!!

[Taverner]

7. Yeah the IDF only makes rainbows and unicorns

They would never hurt anyone :eyes:

Or sacrifice one of their own in some Rovian false flag op

Same goes for Hamas btw...

Two terrorists, going at it mano y mano

[Mosby]

12. what does your DU avatar mean to you?

Please help me understand because I find it offensive.

[Taverner]

14. Anti American

Right now, do you agree with the America you live in?

Do you support her, despite the 3 wars, the eliminating of essential social services, the economic hit games we play on other countries, our addiction to oil, our sales of weapons, our politicians who long ago threw us under the bus, the stupidity of most of America (American Idol anyone?), our utterly hysterical reaction to anything "social," our "greed is good" mantra, our subjugation under the corporatocracy, the oligarchy that controls and owns 95% of the wealth, a system that has no problem sending 17-year-olds into battle, yet won't let those same folks get married to whom they choose (if they happen to be in love with someone of the same sex,) a news media that prints and broadcasts blatant falsehoods, and eliminates all intelligent or critical discourse, a country that does nothing for the poor, yet still feels compelled to force Christianity at every turn, a country that was founded on a lie ("FREEDOM") - freedom but only for white, male landowners, a country that has an embargo against Cuba, but China is just all right by us, despite their torture, and social darwinist nature?

[Shaktimaan]

15. what does that even mean?

..."agree with the America you live in?"

I think you'd be hard pressed to find a single citizen that likes every single aspect of America or her history. Regardless, mostly all of us do support this country and are committed to changing the aspects that run counter to our ethics. No nation has a spotless record, or even anything close to it. That said, there's plenty of things about America that I find extremely "agreeable." At its best, this country offers economic opportunity and freedom from persecution on a level that's pretty much unmatched anywhere else in the world. (I used to have family spread all around the globe. Now we are pretty much exclusively in America and Israel. As it is with almost all Jews.) I live in NYC, which is probably the most cosmopolitan city on the planet, in what is likely the most cosmopolitan country on the planet. We have some of the strongest laws promoting freedom of speech as well, even compared with progressive countries like England. If you think our news media doesn't offer enough critical discourse then you haven't been reading the right journals.

[azurnoir]

18. Why would you find it 'offensive" ? n/t

[Shaktimaan]

16. Some Rovian false flag op?

Oh, you think that Bush was behind 9/11, don't you.
Of course you think the IDF bombed its own city without a shred of evidence.

[PCIntern]

6. Outrageous horseshit...n/t

[oberliner]

8. A local initiative?

What is that a euphemism for exactly?

[azurnoir]

9. well reading in context

The perpetrators of Wednesday's bombing in the capital apparently took advantage of changes in Israel's security deployment in the West Bank and Jerusalem, which stemmed from the prolonged quiet. Security checks at the separation fence, at checkpoints and in city centers have become much less thorough, while the Israel Defense Forces presence in the West Bank has been pared down.

Moreover, since the old terror networks have mostly been dismantled, the Palestinian Authority has been making most of the arrests, so Israeli intelligence operatives have less daily contact with the field.

Wednesday's bombing in Jerusalem was limited in scope. A suicide bomber was not involved, and the bomb was relatively small. The pattern is different than the one Hamas used during previous waves of terror.

The bombing may have been a local initiative. As of last night, no terrorist group had claimed responsibility for it or even praised the perpetrators.


my impression is that either an (Arab) resident(s) of Jerusalem or an (Arab) Israeli citizen(s) are considered the more likely suspects

[oberliner]

10. What are the contextual clues that lead you to that conclusion?

I'm not seeing any.

[azurnoir]

11. that the 'old' networks have been dismantled the PA has been making arrests

oh and no one has claimed 'credit' for the bombing and for all of the 'relaxed' checkpoints are mentioned doesn't simple logic say it would be much easier for someone already in Jerusalem or Israel to have placed the bomb?

[oberliner]

13. Why do you assume the bomber is an Arab?

Do you believe that is implicit in the article?

If so, where is it implied?

[azurnoir]

17. I assume nothing of the sort, do you think it may have been a nonArab or

nonPalestinian? If so please elaborate, I would find that most interesting