VIDEO / IHH leader tells Gaza flotilla activists to 'throw IDF soldiers into the sea'

[azurnoir]

The Foreign Ministry released a new video on Friday in which IHH leader Bulent Yildirim is seen on board the Gaza flotilla's ship the Mavi Marmara, telling dozens of activists to throw Israeli commandos overboard if they attempt to board the ship.

"If they board our ship, we will throw them into the sea, Allah willing!," says Yildirim, the head of the Turkish pro-Palestinian group, IHH, that sent an aid flotilla to Gaza last month.

"If we show fear, they will win once again….we don't want to be recorded in Allah's book as cowards," says Yildirim in the video, as dozens of passengers are seen chanting ""millions of martyrs marching to Gaza!"

"They (Israel) are so weak that for 4-5 days they have been engaging in propaganda (against us)…they have been humiliated in front of the whole world… now they are saying that they will launch a fleet (against us)… that they will send the commandos here (to the ship)."

"And we say: 'If you send the commandos, we will throw you down from here and you will be humiliated in front of the whole world," Yildirim tells the passengers.

On Wednesday, Israel added the IHH to its terror watch list following the events of the Gaza-bound flotilla.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/video-ihh-leader-tells-gaza-flotilla-activists-to-throw-idf-soldiers-into-the-sea-1.296993

[Enrique]

1. so don't board the ship

:shrug:

[azurnoir]

2. well you would think but it makes too much sense n/t

[shira]

3. Are you for the IHH sending another pro-Hamas armada for a repeat attempt @ martyrdom?

IHH plans new flotilla for Gaza
http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=178617

[Tripmann]

4. Are the IDF for executing any more kids with 4 to the back of the skull?

Amazing how you can talk about the 'martyrs' without mentioning the people pulling the trigger in international waters.

More filth.

[shira]

5. Why can't you answer the question?

And what's the source of this absolute nonsense about 4 bullets to the back of the head? Did the evil IDF drain his blood and use it for Matza too? Or did they just steal and harvest his organs? :eyes:

Speaking of filth - why are you so reluctant to answer whether you honestly believe the IHH pro Hamas contingent with the metal rods, axes, stun grenades, and knives were genuine "peace activists"?

[Tripmann]

6. Because its exactly the same as contending a rape victim was a slut.

Inferring the morals of the victim doesn't lessen the crime carried out by the rapist. Even inferring that she was looking for sex, even 'asking for it dressed like that' does not change the fact that she did not consent to sex with the rapist. By the same measure, even if these members of the flotilla WERE 'hamas supporters' and WERE prepared for 'martyrdom', even if they had targets painted on them and were shouting 'shoot me now jew', it still does not excuse their deaths.

A lame diversionary tactic, you're fooling nobody as usual.

[shira]

8. Now you're not answering 3 questions. Why is this so hard for you?

1. The IHH is about to send another flotilla out to Gaza, despite what just happened. Despite what you know now about the IHH and despite the fact Egypt has opened its border and Israel is easing restrictions, do you support this latest IHH effort?

2. Were the dudes with metal rods, axes, knives, and stun grenades genuine peace activists?

3. Why did you just falsely accuse and slander the IDF with the charge of putting 4 bullets into the back of someone's head on the Marmara?

[Tripmann]

11. The 'shira question' is nothing more than a diversionary tactic

that attempts to divert attention fron atrocities committed by Israel. Like I pointed out, it says more about you than it does about the liberals around here that actually have a problem with thugs boarding a boat in internatinal waters and shooting dozens of people.

So ask all the non-questions you want. You haven't been able to prove that the people killed were hamas sympathisers. And even if they were, its not a crime worthy of execution without trial.

[shira]

13. You keep bringing up atrocities and executions....

In fact, you brought up some bogus account of the IDF putting 4 bullets into the back of the head of one of the nine people killed 2 weeks ago.

From which "reputable" source did you learn about this "execution" or "atrocity"?

I mean, if you're going to accuse Israel of executions and atrocities and other filth you know very damned well they didn't commit, what's the point continuing with you?

Why do you feel the need to exaggerate or slander the IDF? If they're as terrible as you make them out to be, the simple facts should back you. You shouldn't need to resort to Bush 101 Rightwing thuggish filth tactics.

[Tripmann]

15. " Gaza: Gaza flotilla activists were shot in head at close range"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jun/04/gaza-flotilla-activists-autopsy-results

Nine Turkish men on board the Mavi Marmara were shot a total of 30 times and five were killed by gunshot wounds to the head, according to the vice-chairman of the Turkish council of forensic medicine, which carried out the autopsies for the Turkish ministry of justice today.

The results revealed that a 60-year-old man, Ibrahim Bilgen, was shot four times in the temple, chest, hip and back. A 19-year-old, named as Fulkan Dogan, who also has US citizenship, was shot five times from less that 45cm, in the face, in the back of the head, twice in the leg and once in the back. Two other men were shot four times, and five of the victims were shot either in the back of the head or in the back, said Yalcin Buyuk, vice-chairman of the council of forensic medicine.

Let me guess, the pathologist is an anti-semite jew-hater who manufactures autopsy reports and conceals the truth in the ass of his inflatable hitler doll :eyes:

[shira]

16. You wrote about one such activist shot in the back of the skull 4 times in an execution

Did you simply make that one up or did you pull that one from one of your many 'reputable' news sources?

It's still in post #4 above.

[Tripmann]

17. My mistake, the kid was ONLY shot once in the face, once in the back of the head, once in the back,

and twice in the leg................................................IN SELF DEFENSE :eyes:

Also from the autopsy "five of the victims were shot either in the back of the head or in the back."

[shira]

18. Your mistake? You didn't hear or read of that anywhere? You just made it up?

[Tripmann]

20. Nope, i just got the details of the executions mixed up. Guess shooting 4 people point blank in the

back of the skull is FAR better than shooting one person 4 times.

[shira]

21. Really? You didn't get that from a source like this, for example?

What else would you call it? The Israeli commandos that boarded the Free Gaza Flotilla shot Furkan Dogan once in the chest and four times in the head at close range.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cenk-uygur/israeli-defense-forces-ex_b_600282.html

[Tripmann]

22. Are you disputing that multiple people got shot in the back at the head point blank?

[shira]

24. Are you denying that you didn't repeat false accusations you read from a disreputable source?

[Tripmann]

26. Yes, I got the details of the execution of a 19 year old child mixed up.

Says a lot about you that you choose to focus on how many bullets were pumped into his head and ignore the fact that a 19 year old kid was shot in the back of the head point blank.

How do you sleep at night?

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[Tripmann]

29. LOL! So one-sided its 2 dimensional

"What choice did the IDF commandos really have once the beatings and stabbings began?"

No mention of the choice they made to rappel armed and dangerous onto a boat in international waters.

What a joke

[azurnoir]

7. yes I do support another flotilla however it shoild be noted

that it will only result in martyrdom if IDF responds with deadly force as Israel's UN ambassador claims it will against the Lebanese ship Miriam do you support the IDF continuing to kill activists?

[shira]

9. Why exactly do you support another IHH provocation?

Egypt has opened its border and Israel is easing up on restrictions.

It appears the only reason the IHH and Hezbollah are sending boats out is to end the blockade altogether, in order to allow Iran and others to arm Hamas.

[azurnoir]

14. Did I say IHH or Flotilla ?

now can you answer my question as to are you in favor of Israel again using deadly force on the activists on board the Miriam as Gabriel Shalev said they would?

[shira]

19. The IHH is sending another flotilla with more of their goons.....do you support that?

I don't believe Israel will be as unprepared the next time around, even with pro-Hamas IHH mercenaries onboard.

However, if the lives of IDF troops are endangered again then I'm in favor of them defending themselves.

[azurnoir]

23. IDF troops will not "endanger" themselves

as Israel has proclaimed IHH to be a terrorist group meaning that if IHH were to send another flotilla it would most likely be greeted by F-16's not Israeli commando's

would you support that?

however I for that reason not support IHH sending another flotilla, it is almost sure death

[shira]

25. I agree. But no F-16's in response, that's nuts.

Maybe next time they'll spray that stinky skunk water they have at anyone on the top deck, or stop boats by destroying the propellers (without sinking the boat), or something else that's ingenious.

A repeat Marmara performance isn't going to happen again.

Good to see you write that you don't support another IHH boat with pro-Hamas goons on it.

[azurnoir]

28. Lol they could have done that the first time too

IDF chose not to, now that Israel has officially listed IHH as a terror group and Netanyahu's government claims to be drafting a new list of what is not allowed into Gaza what is to stop them, harsh words?

[Prometheus Bound]

10. The plastic deck chairs are clear evidence of their intent to go to war against the Israeli navy.

[IndianaGreen]

12. Throwing IDF soldiers into the sea will pollute the ocean

Do we want to kill the fish?