Poll: One-state solution gains ground

[ProgressiveMuslim]

Published yesterday (updated) 21/04/2010 15:21


Bethlehem - Ma'an - Support for a one-state solution is the highest it has ever been, a new poll by the Jerusalem Media and Communication Centre released on Wednesday indicated.

The poll covered support for the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank and the Hamas-led government in Gaza, as well as gauging trust in Palestinian politicians. It has a margin of error of three percentage points, the JMCC said.

Nearly 34 percent of respondents favored a binational state in all of historic Palestine over the two-state solution, which only 43.9 percent supported, the JMCC poll found.

The decline in support for the two-state solution has persisted since shortly after the start of the Palestinian uprising in September 2000, however, those who favored a binational state were only 20.6 percent in June 2009.

In 2001, 18.3 percent of respondents favored a binational state, according to JMCC polls.

Peace process

Just over 30 percent of respondents believe that the peace process is dead and that there is no chance that negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians will be resumed.

An additional 46.2 percent believe the peace process is passing through a difficult time and are uncertain of the outcome. Only 18.4 percent of Palestinians believe the peace process is alive and well.
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http://maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=278196

[Ruby the Liberal]

1. Never gonna happen.

Israel isn't going anywhere.

[oberliner]

2. Wow, Hamas really takes a beating in this poll - an encouraging sign!

Q21. If elections were to take place during 2010, which of the following parties/factions would you vote for?

Fatah 39.7% - Hamas 14.4%

Q24. Which of the following Parties\ Factions will you vote for?* (in local elections)

Fatah 59.5% - Hamas 18.8%

Q27. Which Political or religious faction do you trust the most?*

Fatah 36.2% - Hamas 14.4%

[unabelladonna]

3. fat chance

........"it wouldn't be prudent"............

[Jim Sagle]

4. Hogwash!

[Name removed]

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[aranthus]

5. In all seriousness, what has changed in over 60 years?

In 1947, the Arabs wanted a single state (with an Arab majority), meaning no Jewish sovereignty in any part of the Holy Land. Then, after Israel was established, they demanded the right to return and destroy the Jewish state. Then, in the 1980's they claimed to agree with the idea of two states (but still with full right of return), which would still ensure Arab majority in Israel. Now it's moving back to a one state demand. However you slice it, the Palestinian demand has always been that Israel cease to exist as a Jewish state and be replaced by an Arab one with a Jewish minority. The Palestinians keep demanding essentially the same thing over and over, and somehow now expect a different result?

[Vegasaurus]

6. Only in your dreams...nt

[Eg-ptiangirl]

8. Dreams really come true here so better be prepared

You have to read about the history of this area.
It is either 2 state solution or 1 state, I don't consider the third option a solution cause I don't want both nations to die and I believe fair peace could happen if each one thinks clear and realize that millions of people from each side are not going to vanish.

[Mosby]

9. lol Ok

So when are the Palestinians in Egypt going to be treated with dignity and respect? Israel at least takes care of their basic needs, which is a hellava lot better than the way the Palestinian refugees are treated in your country.

[Eg-ptiangirl]

10. not true at all

Egypt is very very crowded and no one even notices who is Egyptian and who is not. And We don't have refugee camps you must be confused with other countries((They have a valid reason to do so but this is not what are we discussing))which is expected since you are obviously not trying to inform yourself about the situation before writing like an expert who will embarrass me when you are only embarrassing yourself with lack of basic informations.

[Mosby]

11. Egypt has more than 70,000 Palestinians locked away

in refugee camps. Funny (in a sad way) that you seem to be unaware of that fact.

[Eg-ptiangirl]

12. Sorry you are so ill informed

I am SURE there no refugee camps but since it so hard to convince you that I know my own country more than you here is the list of the camps: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine_refugee_camps


But since you opened this conversation what do you think about this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_General_Assembly_Resolution_194 and this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folke_Bernadotte

[Mosby]

13. I'm not the one who's ill-informed

Palestinian refugees in Egypt by Amineh Ishtay


Egypt hosted approximately 50,000 (now more than 70K) Palestinian refugees. Most of them were displaced from the West Bank and Gaza by the 1967 Arab-Israeli war.

The UN High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) provided humanitarian assistance to Palestinian refugees on a case-by-case basis.

The situation of Palestinian refugees in Egypt is insecure. UNRWA serves them only in exceptional cases. This is particularly problematic for refugees because Egypt does not have its own domestic asylum laws, and Cairo depends on UNRWA to determine the refugee status of individual asylum seekers. The U.N. refugee agency has repeatedly urged the Egyptian government to develop its own asylum policy.

Their greatest problem is a lack of stability and security; they all face an uncertain future.

The Palestinian society isn’t integrated to the Egyptian society. The government policy kept them distinctly separates. Their situation became worst after the signing of the peace treaty with Israel in 1978. The Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO) opposed Egypt’s normalization with Israel.

Even more problematic is the general law that prevents children of Egyptian women who marry foreign men from gaining Egyptian citizenship. These children are denied rights that are granted to children of Palestinian women who marry Egyptian men.

http://www.jerusalemites.org/crimes/nakba/11.htm


The forgotten Palestinians: how Palestinian refugees survive in Egypt

Palestinians fled to Egypt after the wars of 1948, 1956 and 1967. Gazans employed as civil servants when the Gaza Strip was under Egyptian administrative rule and Gazan students in Egypt when it was occupied by Israel in 1967 were also prevented from returning home. Neither group of displaced palestinians has been protected or assisted either by UNHCR or by the United Nations Relief and Works
Agency (UNRWA) – the agency set up to assist Palestinian refugees which began operations in 1950. While UNRWA established relief and assistance projects in Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, West Bank and Gaza, Egypt did not allow UNRWA to operate on its territories.

http://www.fmreview.org/FMRpdfs/FMR20/FMR2013.pdf

UN res 194 is a general assembly resolution which is not binding, the two ress that speak more directly about the conflict and how is should be resolved is UNSCR 242 and 338.

[Mosby]

14. conclusion

Egypt is a signatory to the 1965 Casablanca Protocol and has ratified its articles designed to give
Palestinians rights to residency, work and travel while emphasising the importance of preserving Palestinian nationality and maintaining refugeestatus. In 1981 Egypt additionally signed the 1951 UN Convention. In practice, neither document has been implemented. Egypt’s shifting policies towards it's Palestinians have led to a gradual erosion of their rights. Regulations have marginalised Palestinians and reduced status of foreigners denied access to international bodies able to voice their needs. All the legal instruments of the UN and the Arab League have failed to protect the basic human rights of Palestinians, not only in Palestine but also in exile. If Egypt, and other Arab states, are to sincerely support the Palestinian refugee cause they must provide rights and access to services until such time as Palestinians are able to return.

[Eg-ptiangirl]

16. Yeah and why not also

Till this day come, we should also support Israel in turning all WB into a settlement.

What is wrong with us uncivilized barbaric jihadi terrorist Arabs with so much oil, we are the reason for the Palestinian suffering, we should totally take all Palestinians and even offer Israel more lands to occupy.

I am not smart but I am not also without a brain to think you really care for Palestinians by concentrating on refugees in Arab countries.

I really hope by all this going discussion you are trying to be smart cause if not you have a problem in understanding the current situation.

Any way good night I have to sleep, God bless you forever I dont like to fight with any one before sleeping.

[shira]

17. Takes some nerve for Egyptians to ignore Egypt's treatment of Palestinians while pointing to Israel

[Eg-ptiangirl]

15. OMG so old news

Although I don't see where are the camps you were talking about in the article but Even laws regarding the children of the Egyptian women have changed(mainly cause it was humiliating to women) from like 10 years ago, I cant believe you rather search for an old article from a no source than just admitting you were wrong when you posted we have camps when we certainly DONT. It is normal that I know if there are camps in my country or not. We didn't want the UNRWA cause we didnt want camps duh plus the number was never that big.

Funny how tiny your comment about 194 resolution which is normal to talk about when discussing the Refugees problem but it is even funnier how you totally neglected the other link :)

Just a question: how many posts and replies it will take discussing my own country politics before returning back to discuss the current situation of occupation and peace? I get bored from offtopics fast.

[Violet_Crumble]

18. Yeah, as long as Israel only bombs the crap out of them and steals their land, that's okay...

Considering most of yr contribution to this forum is to defend what Israel does to the Palestinian people, be it OCL, bulldozing their homes, stealing their land, etc, yr sudden 'concern' for Palestinians who may possibly be badly treated by Arabs comes as a bit of a shock! It's almost as though you have one set of rules for Israel and another completely different set for Arabs. Anyway, if you consider 'takes care of their basic needs' to be bombing the crap out of them, stealing their land, making their lives a misery, all brought to us by a government that contains bigoted extremists who advocate ethnic cleansing and RW types who try to introduce discriminatory laws, then Israel's doing an absolutely top-notch job...

btw, you may not be aware of it, but much like another American 'supporter' of Israel last weekend did, you do come across a bit as though yr trying to hold Egyptian girl responsible for what her government does. As an American, you might like to rethink taking that approach to other posters lest there be a shitload of stuff us non-Americans start to act as though yr personally responsible for and have to explain...