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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 05:54 AM
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"By Fire and Blood" - a book review

Israeli journalist Charles Enderlin unmasks the terrorists who created Israel: the Irgun, the Stern Gang and the Haganah.

Charles Enderlin’s book "Par le Feu et Par le Sang" (By Fire and Blood) examines the terrorism that helped create the state of Israel. The book is highly readable and carefully researched. It examines the ‘black years’ of 1936 to 1948 when the Zionist underground waged clandestine war in Palestine by any and all means to achieve its goal of a Jewish state.

"One does not hand a people a state on a silver platter", said Chaïm Weizmann, the first president of Israel, and he knew what he was talking about. Zionist terrorists – the Irgun, the Stern Gang and the Haganah – made Israel possible, but their crimes were quietly forgotten when the new state came into being. Their terrorism was hidden away behind grand talk of "heroism", "triumph" and "sacrifice".

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These were extremely odd gangsters, to be sure! Many were intellectuals, imbued with a messianic faith in Zionism and ready to commit both murder and suicide for their cause.

http://www.pajumontreal.org/paju_en/?/End-the-occupation-PAJU-Vigil-453-oct-16-2009-Israel-s-terrorist-roots



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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 06:41 AM
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1. the label of terrorist
Always is applied when a political group, frustrated by powerlessness uses tried and true methods of revolt. Reducing terrorism or better, preventing it in the first place from taking on a blinding life of its own, means dealing with the political group AS a political group.

The unspeakable spinners in the Intel community who went on NPR full of mere speculations that Al Qaeda has been taken under the wing by the Taliban- for all their alarmist imagination- missed the point. Whether Basque of Kurd or IRA or Zionist or many others one can name without difficulty, terrorism is simply politics or war by the means available. The experts lusting for war in Afghanistan to worsen that reality of course never want to look at the universal, treatable causes for zealous groups turning to suicide bombers etc. especially against foreign OCCUPIERS, the main and best instigation of extremist violence.

And since, the group suppressed keeps up its strategy and the problem is never addressed except as a lucrative game over misdirecting people about the symptom only, the intent of these smart experts who are guessing that the Taliban are becoming totally a terrorist organization- supposedly out of meaningless spite or apocalyptic nuttiness, is for the administration to get bogged down in stupidity and defeat.

The solutions for Afghanistan is for the internal politics to have it out. Really strong armed into full talks by the real powers(tribal chiefs, warlords, Taliban chiefs etc etc. or the traditional(globally sanctioned and starved) course of war until the bloody handed victor comes out on top. So far by neglect we have made things generally worse for all.
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