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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 09:18 AM Original message |
Jurist: Ties to Israel obligated war crimes probe |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 10:18 AM Response to Original message |
1. m'thinks they do protest too much. |
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Sezu (920 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
2. From the London Times |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 12:24 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. is there ANY criticism of Israel's public policy that is acceptable, ever? |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 12:53 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. read more.....and widen your sources..... |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 01:12 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Of course I'm interested, subtle swipe aside. |
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Sezu (920 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 01:28 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. UH excuse me. It was the UN which touted him |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 01:48 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. oh go for the ad hominem with me |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 08:42 AM Response to Reply #12 |
37. let me help......it starts with comments like this: |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 09:53 AM Response to Reply #37 |
41. the answers to your questions |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 10:23 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. so i guess at least one correction is in order.... |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 11:53 AM Response to Reply #42 |
45. oh brilliant |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 01:30 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. LOL I was waiting for this angle in the smear campaign |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 06:37 PM Response to Reply #10 |
19. The usual Nazi comparison, etc. nt |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 09:33 PM Response to Reply #2 |
29. What utter bullshit. Goldstone was way ahead of the curve |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
3. Is there any article written about Goldstone that does not point out that he is Jewish? |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 12:32 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. god forbid a jew should criticize a jew unless it's on the topic of having an opinion |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 01:25 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. facinating why is that? n/t |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 01:48 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Are the religions of Chinkin, Jilani, or Travers ever noted? |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 01:58 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. No their religons are not mentioned |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 05:25 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Does being Jewish mean you cannot be anti-semitic? |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 07:04 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. no, it means anything you say against Israel cannot be labeled antisemitic, biased, etc.. |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 07:23 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. No but it does make it a bit less likely |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 07:25 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. the point is it's a shield against criticism..."if a jew says it, then it must be true" |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 07:27 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Possibly but same question |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 08:02 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. no - but he deserves zero respect for his dishonesty WRT the report and his response to critics |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 11:08 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. well Goldstne will certainly get no respect from you will he? |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 04:36 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. he shouldn't get respect from you either.... |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 09:42 AM Response to Reply #31 |
40. Already read that n/t |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 12:26 PM Response to Reply #40 |
48. and despite being aware of all that, you respect Goldstone - why? |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 02:20 PM Response to Reply #48 |
57. you assume much and know little other than the propaganda |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 03:34 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. how's about trying to lay off the personal jabs and focus on Goldstone's report instead? |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 07:12 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. If you do want to be "jabbed" do not presume to state my opinion |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 02:11 PM Response to Reply #3 |
14. Not really facinating, more par for course. |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 05:28 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. I think it is quite telling that so many folks feel the need to point that out |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 07:49 PM Response to Reply #18 |
25. What do you mean by 'telling'? |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 08:07 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. I think it "tells" that they are concerned about relevant facts. |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 05:00 AM Response to Reply #27 |
32. Yeah, if it wasn't relevant, I'd see it differently too n/t |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 05:55 AM Response to Reply #27 |
34. If he was a Muslim or Arab would that be relevant? |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 08:31 AM Response to Reply #34 |
35. It is relevant to know the background of all parties to the investigation and the report. |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 08:37 AM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Why would their religion or ethnic background be important? |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 08:43 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Is that another rhetorical question? |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 11:43 AM Response to Reply #38 |
43. Indeed it was! |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 12:07 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. So I've caused you some cognitive disconnect? nt |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 12:38 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. None whatsoever |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 01:00 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. I have learned not to trust my sarcasm meter on the web, unless the sarcasm is explicit. |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 01:03 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. Fair enough |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 01:10 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. I don't really believe in the notion of people being unbiased. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 08:46 AM Response to Reply #36 |
39. It seems to me that he was selected to head the commission precisely because of his background. |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 11:43 AM Response to Reply #39 |
44. What is your evidence for that claim? |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 12:08 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. The fact that it is so continually mentioned, as you yourself have pointed out? nt |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 12:37 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. I've never once seen it mentioned |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 12:55 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. I refer you to post #3. |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 12:59 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. That he is Jewish is frequently mentioned, that he was chosen because he is Jewish is not |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 01:05 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. Well, I will skip the obvious pun. |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 08:25 PM Response to Reply #18 |
28. I see the same damn thing in regards to gay issues. |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 02:43 PM Response to Reply #3 |
15. Of course there are, though it's not particularly fascinating that others do... |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 05:24 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Do you know what a rhetorical question is? |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-19-09 07:45 PM Response to Reply #16 |
24. I've never had any problems |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 05:38 AM Response to Reply #16 |
33. I didn't realise one could use rhetorical questions to avoid facts... |
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