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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 07:02 AM
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Eliyahu: 'Opt for prison over hearing girls sing
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"Former Sephardi chief rabbi Mordechai Eliyahu has called on religious IDF soldiers to choose imprisonment over hearing a woman singing during military events and ceremonies, an Israeli paper revealed on Tuesday.

The influential national-religious rabbi said that he was asked by soldiers what they should do when their commanders order them to stay at an event in which a woman was singing. Orthodox Jewish law prohibits men from hearing a woman sing on modesty grounds.

"I told them - what should you do? The Talmud tells you… It is better you go to jail, disregard your commander and don't hear the voice of a woman singing," Eliyahu said in a recorded sermon broadcast Monday night and carried by the newspaper Ma'ariv.

The IDF's Chief of Staff's Office recently issued a prohibition on observant soldiers walking out of military assemblies to avoid hearing women singing. Chief education officer Brig. Gen. Eli Shermeister said that incidents of religious soldiers walking out of ceremonies to avoid the religious transgression were a "worrisome phenomenon," as they were liable to weaken group cohesion."

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1246443742054&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull



Rabbi Eliyahu warns of rabbis who 'kowtow to women'

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3743211,00.html

Former chief rabbi slams liberal stream in religious Zionism, spreading violation of chastity codes

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"Former Chief Rabbi Mordechai Eliyahu warned this week of the rising prominence of the liberal stream in religious Zionism and slammed rabbis who "kowtow to women."

During a Torah lesson he delivered on Monday, the prominent national religious leader spoke in length about the importance of observing chastity codes. He advised soldiers to cover their ears during military ceremonies that include women singing. "It's better to go to jail than to obey the commander and hear a woman sing or play." He stated.

Eliyahu stressed that listening to a woman deliver a speech, if she did so while using hand gestures, was also forbidden: "It's very serious. One should watch out for these things."

Men and women sitting together at weddings was also banned, according to the rabbi, let alone dancing together. "Today at weddings everything is allowed – to dance, to look… a man dances with a woman he doesn't know… men swap women. This is a very serious thing!"

"Rabbis, repent!" urged Eliyahu. "Admit: Say, 'we were wrong. We won't allow mixed dancing, mixed weddings, mixed sitting'." He said that more liberal poskim (rabbis that issue halachic rulings) were favored by women, "Because a woman wants to be looked at. But men don't like them, because men know this is wrong."
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 08:40 AM
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1. No singin' no dancin' almost sounds like Methodists
bet they aren't allowed to hold hands either
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 10:00 AM
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2. Much of the Bible speaks of singing in Joy to the Lord.
Edited on Wed Jul-08-09 10:05 AM by RandomThoughts
Including comments about many women that sing.

I like this song by this girl.
Blue Sky Love
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Nx4MkvHFUk
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