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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 08:49 AM
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Thoughts on the Death of Rachel Corrie
Thoughts on the Death of Rachel Corrie

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-bromwich/thoughts-on-the-death-of_b_175395.html

Today is the sixth anniversary of the death of Rachel Corrie. On March 16, 2003, in Rafah, in the Gaza Strip, she was run over by an armor-plated Caterpillar bulldozer, a machine sold by the U.S. to Israel, the armor put in place for the purpose of knocking down homes without damage to the machine. Rachel Corrie was 23 years old, from Olympia; a sane, articulate, and dedicated American who had studied with care the methods of Gandhi and Martin Luther King. At the time that she was run over, and then backed over again, she was wearing a luminous orange jacket and holding a megaphone. There is a photograph of her talking to the soldier of the Israel Defense Forces, in the cabin of his bulldozer, not long before he did it. None of the eyewitnesses believed that the killing was accidental. Perhaps the soldier was tired of the peace workers; it was that kind of day. Perhaps, in some part of himself, he guessed that he was living at the beginning of a period of impunity.

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What drives these Americans to risk their lives against Israeli soldiers on behalf of a subject people half the world away? The answer is a passion for justice, and a commitment to civil rights. Why should any of this be of interest to Americans? For a general reason and a particular one. The general: this is a passion and a commitment that we Americans at our best have been supposed to share; it is the largest single reason we have received the admiration of other people around the world. The particular reason is as obvious but more immediate. Barack Obama, our first black president, and a man who has identified himself as a beneficiary and successor of the tradition of Martin Luther King, has promised $30 billion of military aid to Israel over the next ten years -- with no conditions, no budget-items specified, no limitations spoken of. Barack Obama is known to be a moderate politician, and so we may deduce that the moderate plan, with Israel, is to keep increasing the leviathan-bulk of the American subsidy and not to ask questions.

We ought to know a good deal about a country to which we give such large continuous donations. But Americans who care for public discussion of this subject are obliged to conduct it ourselves, since, if recent history is a guide, we will get no help from the leading American newspapers. Even the appointment today of Avigdor Lieberman, an avowed racist and a believer in the feasibility of the expulsion of all Palestinians, as foreign minister in the new Israeli government under Binyamin Netanyahu -- even this predicted and extraordinary news is not likely to provoke the New York Times or the Washington Post to report with honesty who this Lieberman is, and what he signifies. Nor will the Obama administration do it. They will be as hesitant and mixed and occasionally contradictory in their signals on Israel as they have been on many other subjects; more so, because in this case an organized body of censors and guardians attends to the reputation and support of Israel in the U.S. Let us nonetheless open the discussion by admitting that the Israel we think we know is the Israel of books written sixty and forty years ago, and of movies made from those books.

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So enthralled are some minds in the grip of this religious state discipline that they refer to the 1967 borders of Israel -- the boundaries to which a secular government must largely return if there is to be a two-state settlement -- as the "Auschwitz borders." This mad slogan has been taken up by American admirers of the settlements, keen to be known as victims even when they serve as executioners. Stripped of the savage hyperbole, the sense of that statement is merely that these people want to hold onto the Israeli colonies on the West Bank at all costs. They are defending the confiscation of Palestinian lands and the gradual expulsion and transfer of the Palestinian people.

No person fearful of being a victim can be rewarded with special rights or special powers. If we -- Americans, Israelis, everyone -- want to deserve our freedom, we must agree to live in a moral world where people are responsible for themselves. And just as we cannot be punished for the things that our parents did, so the crimes we commit can never be justified by the things our parents suffered.

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Yet in both countries -- though the U.S. lacks a newspaper even close to being as serious and candid as Haaretz -- there is a citizenry capable of being educated and roused to punctual action in its own long-term interest. The truth about this has never altered. The commandment governing the long-term good of a country is the same as that for an individual -- in the dry and accurate words of Thomas Hobbes, "Seek peace." And in memory of Rachel Corrie, let us say also: the addiction to war and indefinite expansion is no longer an Israeli problem. How did we ever dare to suppose that it was? When Americans are shot by a gun or mauled by a bulldozer, it is as much an American problem as when James Chaney, Andrew Goodman, and Michael Schwerner were beaten, shot, and burned, and their bodies left in a swamp, in Neshoba County, Mississippi, on June 21, 1964.


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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 09:02 AM
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1. I can't recommend this thread. Even here, the topic is censored.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 09:33 AM
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4. And why is that I wonder? nt
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 09:36 AM
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6. It's not censored
And the reasons why I/P is structured and has its own forum, are obvious.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 09:40 AM
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7. If you cannot rec a thread, is that not a form of censorship?
A lot of topics have their own forum and all are moderated. That's not a sufficient answer.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 09:44 AM
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8. No. That's no censorship
First of all, it's absurd to talk of censorship re Du- which is, in essence, Skinner's virtual living room. But even if you want to go there, no one is prevented from discussing Israel here or from saying what they think. That should be obvious from the comments in the threads.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 10:00 AM
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9. It is not absurd
I am not talking about government censorship - I know the site is privately owned. I am simply saying there are restrictions in I/P - like recs - which do not exist for other topics or fora.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 10:34 AM
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10. and you can't rec 9/11 stuff either
but not being able to rec a thread does not interfere with your ability to speak your mind. And when I/P has been let loose in GD and other forums, it's a fucking ugly mess, that demands huge amounts of time from the mods- impracticle amounts of time.
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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 05:12 PM
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12. Discussion here is highly censored.
Edited on Thu Mar-19-09 05:13 PM by ProgressiveMuslim
The extra (and sometimes bizarre) rules clearly make things more manageable for the mods, but it's just inaccurate to say that the conversation here is not censored.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 05:34 PM
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13. you can say whatever you wish here in I/P
as long as it's not blatantly racist or doesn't slime an entire people. That's no different than the rest of DU- though I understand you know very little about that as you virtually never post on any other subject or in any other forum. That's hardly censorship.
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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 08:18 PM
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14. There are many people, sources, and areas of discussion which are unilaterally forbidden here.
These are discussed and shared on other sites, but are inexplicably forbidden here.

I do consider that censorship, even if you don't.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 09:08 AM
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2. Red stater here, noticing "I (heart) Israel" bumper-stickers cropping up on mega-church-members'cars
these days.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 09:32 AM
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3. Such patriots
Mega-Church Religion is a farce and a sham. As HL Mencken once said, "the difference between the smartest dog and stupidest man - like a holy roller - is really very small."

Unarmed and defenseless Americans can be killed by Israelis at no cost. The life of an American protesting apartheid is decidedly cheap.

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Shaktimaan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 04:36 AM
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11. The same could be said of Palestinians.
Unarmed and defenseless Americans can be killed by Israelis at no cost.

At the very least I do not recall any Israelis ever entering America to commit terrorism. So apparently unarmed and defenseless Americans can be killed by Palestinians at no cost as well, yes?

If either nation were to advance a policy of killing unarmed Americans I can assure you that there would be repercussions. The bulldozer driver's instructions were not to kill Americans. These few American deaths are merely collateral damage in a war that is not about them.

Even if Rachel Corrie was murdered on purpose, what do you propose doing? Cutting off aid to Israel? Punishing the state in some other way? Rachel was not killed by a state, she was killed by a person, regardless of whether it was on purpose or accidental. There is no cost because there was no crime... not against America or Americans anyway. Rachel's nationality was irrelevant to what happened to her. She was relying on it to protect her in a dangerous situation and that protection failed. America is not in the practice of avenging the deaths of every American abroad regardless of how or why they died.

If Palestine was not punished for the killing of Americans on American soil then why would Israel be punished for a lesser "crime"?

The life of an American protesting apartheid is decidedly cheap.

The life of any person the world over is cheap. Their nationality and occupation are irrelevant. Was Rachel's life any cheaper than that of a US soldier who died in Iraq? I am not sure what you expect be done that would demonstrate her life as having had more value, or even why you would propose doing it.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 09:34 AM
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5. The bumpersticker is a lie.
What it really means is 'I (heart) Armegeddon'.
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