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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-03-09 05:53 PM Original message |
Clinton - Israel has a right to defend itself. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-03-09 05:57 PM Response to Original message |
1. In diplomacy you say all sorts of things. What you do can be very different. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-03-09 06:00 PM Response to Original message |
2. She also hopes for a Palestinian State |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-03-09 06:09 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. By the end of the year seems optimistic |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-03-09 06:16 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. if those involved take the opportunity |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-03-09 06:05 PM Response to Original message |
3. That's gotta be one of the stupidest sayings on the planet. |
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no_hypocrisy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-03-09 06:06 PM Response to Original message |
4. That's true. But defending itself, Israel doesn't have the right to expropriate |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-03-09 06:07 PM Response to Original message |
5. I agree |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-03-09 06:57 PM Response to Original message |
8. Indeed, everyone has a right to defend themselves. nt |
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Tarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-03-09 07:15 PM Response to Original message |
9. "Defend itself" is a given, yes, but "Defend itself" does not extend to |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-03-09 11:01 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. So... |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-04-09 09:55 AM Response to Reply #10 |
17. Eichmann was an escaped fugitive |
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Tarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-04-09 10:18 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Exactly. I was referring more to Mordechai Vanunu. |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-04-09 11:00 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. So apparently you would support Mossad kidnappings on foreign soil under... |
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Tarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-04-09 11:47 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Now that you put it that way, no, I would not have supported it |
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iconicgnom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-03-09 11:24 PM Response to Original message |
11. And, I suppose, because Palestine doesn't "exist", according as US/Israel interests, it has no right |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-03-09 11:29 PM Response to Original message |
12. so if everyone agrees Israel can defend itself, then |
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iconicgnom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-04-09 12:04 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Israel could, possibly, admit that |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-04-09 12:09 PM Response to Reply #13 |
22. so admitting that everyone is equal...will stop the rockets? |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-04-09 01:17 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. OK so what do you think will stop the rockets? |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-04-09 02:22 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. how about....israel has a right to defend itself..... |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-04-09 04:36 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. I think your solution has been tried |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 12:40 AM Response to Reply #25 |
32. not getting an answer is not an answer....nothing hard to understand... |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 03:18 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. The things you describe |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 05:41 AM Response to Reply #33 |
34. its been going on but not in any consistent fashion.... |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 02:57 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. In a way I agree with you |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 06:53 AM Response to Reply #33 |
35. and again, no specifics from you as to HOW israel should defend against rockets |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 02:59 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Because I did give specifics long ago |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-04-09 12:05 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Only in theory. |
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Tarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-04-09 10:19 AM Response to Reply #12 |
19. They could probably return land that doesn't belong to them, for starters. |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-04-09 04:43 PM Response to Reply #19 |
26. they turned over Gaza in 2005 and the rockets increased |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-04-09 05:59 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Israeli military action is not self defence. |
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Vegasaurus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-04-09 06:15 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. We've been through this before, Donald |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-04-09 06:46 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. does this quote mean you are in favor of Israel |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-04-09 07:42 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. so as long as occupation continues, Israel has no right to respond to thousands of rockets |
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Tarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 08:15 AM Response to Reply #26 |
36. They turned over LAND. Not CONTROL. |
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Vegasaurus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 08:08 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. As long as killing Israelis is the major economy of Palestine |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-04-09 06:35 AM Response to Original message |
15. Flip side: Palestinian Muslims are consigned to eternal oppression in order to accommodate Zionism. |
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Malikshah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-04-09 08:31 AM Response to Original message |
16. Clinton: No nation can idly stand by while attacked--title... not the OP title.... |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-04-09 06:56 PM Response to Reply #16 |
30. Why do they expect Palestine to do so? The blatant racism and bigotry is nauseating. nt |
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Malikshah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 03:46 PM Response to Reply #30 |
39. Agreed 100%. I'm just wondering after one alert and my pointing out |
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ohio2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 05:35 PM Response to Original message |
41. US Congresswoman: Tie Gaza Aid to Shalit Release |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 05:54 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Perhaps Hamas will refuse aid but some politicians |
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Malikshah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 07:42 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Wow, can we tie aid to an Israeli pledge (with verification) of removal of illegal settlements? |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 02:43 AM Response to Reply #43 |
44. I suspect we would be more likely to find |
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iconicgnom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 02:48 AM Response to Reply #41 |
45. well, that's one US congresswoman totally in the pocket. |
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