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Purveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 06:37 PM
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Netanyahu: 'Sooner Or Later We'll Have To Finish The Job In Gaza'
Likud chair Binyamin Netanyahu on Tuesday responded to a roadside bomb near Gaza's Kissufim crossing which killed an IDF soldier earlier in the day.

"Sooner or later we'll need to finish the job in Gaza, and that we will do," he said.

JPOST: http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1233050189512&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 06:41 PM
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1. It would seem to me he is looking to start WW3 with a statement like that! n/t
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wundermaus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 06:43 PM
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2. Genocide...
Edited on Tue Jan-27-09 06:44 PM by vmaus
Has a familiar ring to it, doesn't it? "Never again"... rings hollow now.
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 06:51 PM
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3. That man is insane. End the occupation crazy man.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 06:54 PM
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4. What, exactly, does 'finish the job' mean?
Adolf would be so proud.
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Middle finga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 07:19 PM
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5. Sound's a lot like Adolf's "Final Solution"
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 07:54 PM
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6. Yup. That's how it sounds to me, too.
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GoesTo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 09:40 PM
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12. Don't be intentionally obtuse.
He means getting rid of Hamas. That would involve ugly battle and many civilian deaths for sure, but he is not talking about genocide and it's completely disingenuous to pretend that's what he means.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 12:20 PM
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29. How do you know what he means?
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GoesTo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 06:27 PM
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31. Using my brain helps.
Netanyahu was PM before. You can see what he did do and what he didn't do. He didn't try to start a genocide.

He may be a hardliner but he's not a nutcase. In this situation, since Israel's declared goals were about Hamas, it is quite reasonable to assume that finishing the job refers to Hamas.
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 06:32 PM
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32. remember now....Netanyahu and Israel want genocide
and Hamas has not, and never did, desire genocide because they're a national liberation movement.

Yep, got it.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 07:20 PM
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33. And since Israel shoots at everyone in Gaza, they must think they're all Hamas
If 'Hamas' doesn't surrender, how do they 'finish' the job of stopping all those Gazans?
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Shaktimaan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-09 05:25 AM
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35. does it matter?
we are discussing what Bibi meant, not whether it is a realistic goal or not. If a US politician swore to "destroy Al Qaeda" you would not infer that he really meant, "because we can't tell exactly who is in Al Qaeda we are going to nuke the entire middle east." Or would you?

And since Israel shoots at everyone in Gaza, they must think they're all Hamas

Nevermind, I didn't notice that you had abandoned reason.

Yes, Israel shoots at everyone in Gaza. And they think that everyone there is in Hamas. :sarcasm:
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 08:04 PM
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7. so binny boy just fire up the big cats and push them into the sea!
Caterpillar needs the business so order some extra big cats and your problems are solved....
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 08:13 PM
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8. People are always so quick to the Hitler/Nazi Germany comparisons when it comes to Israel
It's really something.
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Idealism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 09:01 PM
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9. Just curious, what does "finish the job" mean to you?
Obviously you have a differing opinion of the previous posters on this thread.

Just boastful election campaign promises or is Bibi sticking to his neo-con worldview guns?
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 09:08 PM
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10. I'm confident it does not mean exterminate all Palestinians
Probably he means the removal of the Hamas government from power in Gaza.

Certainly I completely oppose his position on this subject, but I think it is ridiculous to claim it is akin to Hitler.
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Idealism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 09:39 PM
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11. That wasn't exactly the question
Do you think it is just him trying to win votes or do you truly believe he will start another Cast Lead?
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GoesTo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 09:43 PM
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13. Good question
Certainly trying to win votes. Maybe would start another Cast Lead depending on how a lot of things play out.
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 10:02 PM
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14. I don't think he would re-invade Gaza
He seems a lot more fixated on Iran.

But who knows what foolishness he would endeavour to engage in?

I'm still hoping the Israelis will not give him the chance!
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Idealism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 10:07 PM
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15. You and me both, I hope the Israeli population comes to their senses!
Unless they already know he is against a two-state solution, and embrace that :(
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 03:51 AM
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19. Both sides need to get that through their heads
Likud is not talking about killing all the Arabs, and Hamas (despite Israeli paranoia to the contrary) is not talking about killing all the Jews. Both just want exclusive administration of the land.
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Tripmann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 06:19 AM
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22. I'm sure nobody 'intended' to exterminate 1200 palestinians
to hammer Hamas a few weeks ago. The trouble is when two politicians vying to lead a country, backed by state of the art weaponry, get into a pissing contest about whos going to take the tougher line, it ends bad for the palestinians.

When you lay refugees to siege, it ends bad for the palestinians.

When you use white phosphorous over the most densely populated place on earth, it ends bad for the palestinians.

Intentions? Meanings?
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 06:35 AM
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23. Why would you use the word exterminate here?
Many more people have been killed (and are currently being killed) in conflicts around the world, including, of course, at the hands of US soldiers.

For some reason, they word "exterminate" does not seem to ever be used in any of those contexts - only in connection with Israel.

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Tripmann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 07:22 AM
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24. Because YOU used it in the post I replied to.......
Edited on Wed Jan-28-09 07:22 AM by Tripmann
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 07:27 AM
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25. Fair enough
I used the term because the implication of the Nazi comparison seemed to suggest that was Netanyahu's intention.

I would not call what took place in Gaza over the past month an "extermination" of the Palestinians.
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Tripmann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:21 AM
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26. I would not call it that either, however...
...there are a lot newly made widows, widowers and orphans in Gaza, still held under siege, who may not care whether they lost their loved ones through an attempt at extermination or as an 'unavoidable' consequence of the bombing of their refugee camp.

Would it make that big a difference to you if you had to sift through rubble for parts of your loved ones?
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 09:27 AM
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27. It is awful
I lament the loss of life, especially of the children, as well as the large-scale destruction and numerous injuries that have resulted from this invasion.

That being said, however, I do not think Nazi comparisons are appropriate and I question why some folks are so quick to jump to that particular analogy.

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Shaktimaan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 02:23 AM
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16. I find it amazing that everyone is so quick to assume something like that.
Is it possible that most people are knowingly joking or exaggerating when they draw those immediate comparisons, or are that many people really misunderstanding this simple statement so badly?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 03:36 AM
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18. I find it amazing that you could mistake this thug's statement for anything
Edited on Wed Jan-28-09 03:36 AM by sfexpat2000
else especially in view of the last three weeks.
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Shaktimaan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 05:33 AM
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21. anything else but...
Edited on Wed Jan-28-09 05:35 AM by Shaktimaan
...the extermination of the Palestinians?

You really think that Bibi just made "genocide of the Palestinians" one of his campaign promises?

Really?

For real?



edit: That is really what you think?
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 01:00 PM
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30. it's comical, isn't it?
Absolute insanity.

I wouldn't vote for Bibi either, but I know 100% damn well that genocide isn't what he meant. What he meant, most likely, is what some IDF troops said when they came back from Gaza. That they were very close to ending Hamas.
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 10:25 AM
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28. He had nothing to do with the events of the last three weeks
Likud is not part of the current government - Netanyahu is in the opposition right now.

Netanyahu is a right-winger to be sure, but there is no way you can believe that he wants to exterminate the Palestinians.
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Bodhi BloodWave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 04:09 AM
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20. I think some of it can be attributed to exactly why was talking
Edited on Wed Jan-28-09 04:09 AM by Bodhi BloodWave
and admittedly i myself read it as 'getting them expelled from the land by any means'
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 02:50 AM
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17. So it's back to
I can bomb them better, no I can bomb them more ........ Geebus
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 07:42 PM
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34. Sooner or later, we're going to have to deal with nitwits like Nuttyahoo.
Who is a bigger obstacle to peace, the Settlers or Hamas? Take your pick.
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