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StudsT Donating Member (310 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 05:45 AM
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US Thwarts UN Gaza Ceasefire Call
UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - The United States thwarted an effort by Libya on Saturday to persuade the U.N. Security Council to call for an immediate ceasefire in Gaza after Israel launched a ground invasion, diplomats said.

French U.N. Ambassador Jean-Maurice Ripert, currently Security Council president, told reporters after a closed-door session "there was no agreement, but there (were) serious convergences to express serious concern" about the crisis.

The "convergences" of opinions among council members included the need for an immediate and permanent ceasefire and easing the humanitarian crisis Gazans are in, Ripert said.

British Ambassador John Sawers said he was "very disappointed" about the council's failure to agree on a statement during Saturday's 4-hour emergency meeting.

more...
http://uk.reuters.com/article/wtMostRead/idUKTRE50221E20090104

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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 06:00 AM
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1. And what did the resolution say?
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StudsT Donating Member (310 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 06:04 AM
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2. cease fire - but of course the killing, oppression and land left must continue according to the U.S.
and Israel.

and so it goes...

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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 06:05 AM
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3. That isn't the text.
The rest is just you spewing vitriol.
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StudsT Donating Member (310 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 06:12 AM
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4. cease fire is in the text but the U.S. and Israeli State Thugs don't care what the world thinks
and never has.

and so it goes...

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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 06:14 AM
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6. and what else is in the text?
Of course, that doesn't matter to fringe elements because they care not for accuracy or truth when it interferes with their hate-fest.
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StudsT Donating Member (310 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 06:17 AM
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7. it doesn't really matter now does it as israel state thugs act with U.S. impunity
stop the mass murder and crimes and aggression against civilians, end the occupation, now and give the Palestinians their land back and let them live in peace and security is what it should say.

and so it goes...

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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 06:20 AM
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8. It does matter what it says, except to fringe elements.
Yes, it should say many things, but I notice all the things which would benefit Israel are left out from your statement, more than likely, much like the resolution. Then again, fringe types don't care about fairness, just their side.
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StudsT Donating Member (310 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 06:23 AM
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11. you got your fringe (the state thugs) and i got mine (the oppressed people)
and so it goes...

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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 06:25 AM
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13. Those aren't the fringes.
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 06:20 AM
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9. It wasn't going to be a Resolution...
My understanding of it is it was to be a statement issued by the Security Council as a press release type of thing. I googled and couldn't track down the draft version of it, though, but I was just watching something about it on BBC World News and they said it basically boiled down to the sticking point being that the US refused to agree with issuing anything that it saw as putting Israel and Hamas on the same level and that the statement should lay all blame on Hamas. Everything else but that was agreed on, apparently..

I like what Gordon Brown said and I think he's got the right idea about things. He said right now isn't the time to focus on blame. Now's the time to get a ceasefire in place and end the violence...
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 06:24 AM
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12. I looked for it too.
I saw both "statement" and "resolution," which is why I referred to it as a resolution. It appears, from what I read, was that Hamas barely got a "mention" as being involved in the events. The US wanted a greater statement tot heir involvement, including they are a terrorist organization which ripped away power from the PA.
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 09:43 AM
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15. But nothing about US and Israeli past work creating and bolstering Hamas?
I mean, if we're going to cover history in a resolution shouldn't we include all of it?
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 03:33 PM
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23. Red herring.
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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 10:09 AM
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18. Is it a Lebanon 2006 redux? Resolution will come only after israel has achieve its
military aims?
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 06:13 AM
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5. serious convergences to express serious concern
:wtf:
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 06:21 AM
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10. Isn't the language of diplomats so cute?
They use so many words to say absolutely nothing much at all :)
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 11:02 AM
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20. What they actually said was
Everyone pissed, but we can't do shit.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 09:38 AM
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14. The US said it would only vote for a cease fire if it required Hamas to cease firing rockets.
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StudsT Donating Member (310 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 09:55 AM
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17. i believe that is implied in all cease fires - that is just the U.S. try'n to put a happy face on it
and so it goes...

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delad Donating Member (235 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 11:41 AM
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21. is that an attempt at sarcasm?
if not, do you know what the word 'ceasefire' means?
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 09:54 AM
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16. @What is in the text of the statement does not
matter half as much as who made the statement in this case Libya, as things stand right now what ever Libya comes up with the US will reject out of hand because it's Libya,

on that thought perhaps Libya could make a statement encouraging continued warfare the US would probably reject that too, reverse psychology :sarcasm:
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StudsT Donating Member (310 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 03:04 PM
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22. i believe it wouldn't matter who called for it the U.S. would veto it
how would it look if the U.S. told Israel to stop but they didn't listen even to us?

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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 10:19 AM
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19. Okay, before this, I thought both sides were pretty much fucked
Now, I cannot believe that the goal of the United States and ISrael is anything short of killing every Palestinian.

I had been trying to stay neutral because there was plenty enough blame to go around, but not any longer.

ISrael is acting as the evil party in this mess.
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