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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 04:18 PM
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Israel's air force shells orphanage in Ar-Ramal; one killed

Date: 03 / 01 / 2009 Time: 22:25

Ma'an reporter said that the Israeli air force shelled a building of orphanage in Ar-Remal neighborhood and a group of resistance fighters beside a mosque in central Gaza, one Palestinian was killed

http://maannews.net/en/index.php?opr=ShowDetails&ID=34549

(I do find Maan News to be a totally reliable, professional news source.)
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 04:22 PM
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1. Can you imagine if any group fired on an...
...Israeli orphanage?

The uproar would be deafening.

When it happens to children in Gaza...well, that's all justified and moral.

Sick.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 05:34 PM
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6. "The uproar would be deafening."
Yes, it would be. "Well, Israel brought this on their children." "What other way do the Palestinians have to resist?" "Aren't all Israelis expected to be in the IDF?" There would be tons of articles blaming Israel from the foreign media. DU'ers would fall all over themselves to excuse the action.

Of course, we would see the article posted in LBN. The first post would be "why isn't this in I/P!?" The second post, "I guess this means Israel will go on a killing spree." It would be a few more posts before anyone even mentioned the actual article. Of course, there would TONS of recommendations and if it got moved to I/P several posts complaining about it getting moved to the "dungeon." :sarcasm:

"When it happens to children in Gaza...well, that's all justified and moral."

Has that happened? I read the article and it reads that a building of the orphanage was hit. Was it the main orphanage? A storage room? Something else? Then look at the very next line about the Mosque...who was hit outside of the Mosque? Oh that's right "resistance fighters." Was this the same reason for the attack on the building of the orphanage? Were there actually children there at the time?

Personally, I think there are somethings that should never be targets no matter what. Unfortunately, not all people hold that opinion, including those who would use it as a launching pad for attacks.
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independentpiney Donating Member (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 04:50 PM
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2. interesting results in their poll on who is most responsible for loss of life in gaza
Questionnaire Section


Who is to blame for the loss of life in Gaza?


Hamas 60.81% (1403)
Israel 35.37% (816)
Egypt 1.82% (42)
Other 1.99% (46)



Votes : 2307

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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 05:20 PM
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3. They are one of the better ones over there
I do like how they refer to Hamas as the "defacto government" in Gaza
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Vegasaurus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 05:29 PM
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4. Hamas has the blood of every dead child on its hands. nt
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Sezu Donating Member (920 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 05:29 PM
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5. Any reports yet of Israeli soldiers killing babies
in their incubators? Wait a while.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 05:45 PM
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7. Were there additional sounds of detonation
coming from bunkers and makeshift place for making bombs hidden in that building?
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 06:22 PM
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8. Nothing on that strike, but there was on a previous one
They care called secondary explosions (aka secondaries). Airborne cameras are video only. Ground cameras are practically useless for sound in those circumstances
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 11:54 PM
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9. They cleaned up their syntax.
" Israeli air forces struck an orphanage in the Ar-Rimal neighborhood of Gaza city on Saturday night, Ma'an's reporter in Gaza said.

"One person was killed in an attack. The apparent target of the attack was a group of Palestinian fighters stationed near a mosque in the same neighborhood.

"Residents of the Ar-Rimal neighborhood said that explosions could be seen in the vecinity of the Al-Amal (Hope) orphanage."

It makes it read rather differently: instead of two targets, it's one target, with a weak implication that they missed the fighters. Hard to be sure--depends on how close the mosque is to the orphanage. "Near the orphanage" may mean "next to the mosque", and the first sentence may be an inference by the reporter (or his informants), not an observation.
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