ISRAELI SOLDIER KILLS PALESTINIAN 4-YEAR-OLD

[dArKeR]

A Palestinian boy of four was shot dead by an Israeli soldier in the occupied West Bank today.

Three other children, including two of the boy's sisters, were also wounded in what witnesses called an unprovoked slaying.

The troop blasted a Palestinian car with a tank-mounted machine gun from the top of an armoured vehicle at a checkpoint in the northern West Bank village of Barta, south of Jenin.

Eyewitness and Mayor of Barta Ghassan Qabha said four-year-old Mahmoud Qabha died instantly.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/content_objectid=13217561_method=full_siteid=50143_headline=-ISRAELI%2DSOLDIER%2DKILLS%2DPALESTINIAN%2D4%2DYEAR%2DOLD-name_page.html

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[newyorican]

3. His nonsensical way of saying

they are all *terrorists*, and the kid deserved it.

[burythehatchet]

5. not to put words in the doctors mouth

but what I believe he is implying is the following: Here is a child dresses in military garb. ergo, when a 4 year old palestinian is shot dead its really OK because he is just like the kid dressed like a fighter. Or perhaps he would have become a terrorist anyway.

Don't you see, it makes all the sense in the world.

Sarcarm aside, indivduals like this poster are IMO truly at the core of the problem. In their feeble minds one side can do no wrong. That side should be supported unconditionally, and without reproach.

Interestingly enough, the identical mindset can be found at a site called FreeRepublic.com.

FIRE AWAY

[Devils Advocate NZ]

4. What are you trying to say?

Are you trying to say that it is alright for a 4 year old child to be murdered in what even an Israeli army spokesman admitted was an unprovoked attack because other young Palestinian children have been used to promote Palestinian resistance?

If so, then you have a serious problem.

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[drdon326]

8. Now is that nice???

the article is about a poor 4 year old killed
in a war...The picture reminded me of the article.
Sorry you think I was trying to say something that
I never said...

I wont even dignify you last question with a response.

[CitizenDick]

12. So?

It reminded you of the picture. Why did you post it? How is it relevant to the article?

[drdon326]

13. Unfortunately.....

this wars greatest victims are its children.

What I have trouble with is dressing 4 year olds
in terrorist outfits.

[CitizenDick]

14. I'll accept that

But hopefully you can understand that responding to an article about a Palestinain child being killed with a picture of a Palestinain child dressed as a militant, without comment, leads people to another conclusion.

[Devils Advocate NZ]

15. So you have trouble with children being dressed as terrorists...

but not with children being murdered by soldiers with machine guns? You DO have a serious problem!

So any bets on what the inquiry will find? My money is on:

"Not guilty by reason of the victim being Palestinian and the accused being Israeli."

Any takers?

[newyorican]

19. ...

:puke:

[burythehatchet]

21. Good lord...at least own up to your warped views

how freakin' pathetic

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[Aidoneus]

17. hm.

http://www.justkidcostumes.com/product.asp?3=326
http://store4.yimg.com/I/brandsonsale-store_1751_63871801

And the point is?

[Equinox]

23. Excellent counterpoint Aidoneus

There is no difference in anyone or any people glorifying their heros whatever the cause. Palestinians are no different. It certainly doesn't qualify for murder.

[Herschel]

29. These are costumes of soldiers

These are costumes of brave fighters. You cannot compare this to a child being dressed as a killer.

[Equinox]

33. Why not?

Each country has a way of glorifying its heroes or military. There is a comparison here.

[Herschel]

37. So then you say

Killers are heroes? They are the same as our brave military? Please!

[newyorican]

7. *Barbaric*

"An Israeli army spokesman said the soldier opened fire at the car "due to an operational mistake" and that an inquiry had been opened."

Oops! Another shooting from the "moral high ground", eh Herschel??

Something to really celebrate and pound your chest over, huh?

"I'll leave it at that."

[Herschel]

30. I did not post this article

Nor did I comment. However, I am proud to say incidents like the one above are investigated and any crime is dealt with. I celebrate Israel's commitment to justice in such matters.

[burythehatchet]

31. That's a HILARIOUS comment

thanks. I neede the laugh

[Herschel]

32. Think again

The IDF has cited it's own for misdeeds numerous times. It is a myth they are not disciplined.

[Equinox]

35. They are routinely found innocent and put back on the field...

...of battle.

[Herschel]

38. Did you stop and think

Perhaps found innocent because they were? Must they be guilty each time a news article races to their guilt?

[Equinox]

34. The "crime" won't be dealt with.

That's the problem.

[Herschel]

39. You know this how?

You assume there was a crime. You assume it will not be dealt with. You know this how?

[wellst0nev0ter]

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[wellst0nev0ter]

10. We All Know That The Lives Of Palestinian Children Are

Next to worthless. Otherwise, there would be more outrage from all parties concerning how the Israelis managed to kill more young children than the terrorists.

Anyhow, it's comforting to know that, in the event of an Israeli child being killed in a terror attack, I can alway post that picture of young Hebron settlers attacking a Palestinian woman. That should ease my conscience a little </dripping sarcasm>

[CitizenDick]

16. This is a strange story

I'm no military person, but how did it come to pass that this loaded machine gun was pointed in the direction of this boy, ready to fire? By what scenario could this have happened? As far as an IDF investigation is concerned, I don't have a lot of confidence.

[bemildred]

18. Doesn't fill one with confidence

about operational control,
does it?

[tinnypriv]

20. A Palestinian eyewitness?

Nobody is going to take him seriously. That's worse than ISM eyewitnesses!

[Equinox]

22. Well, I hope this soldier lives with this for the rest of his pathetic....

....life. I hope his demons never cease to haunt him.

[newyorican]

24. He will be toasted and promoted

bet on it.

[Darranar]

25. Not true...

The IDF does not condone terrorism. Some of its members do indeed commit terrorist acts, but the only actions done and ordered by the IDF that could be considered terrorism are the attacks on militants that harm civilians. He will not be toasted and promoted. There are plenty of IDF soldiers who are not terrorists and are moral.

[Scurrilous]

26. True.

"There are plenty of IDF soldiers who are not terrorists and are moral."

According to Courage to Refuse, there are presently 547 very moralistic IDF soldiers. They absolutely refuse to serve in the Occupied Territories. Kudos to them!

http://www.nimn.org/refuse/about.html

[Equinox]

27. Yes, definitely kudos to the Seruvniks.

We shall not forget that their are good moral people in this whole mess.

Darranar, some soldiers get promoted after they've committed murder. This is a well known fact. I'm not saying all, but some have. Even the bulldozer driver that ran over Rachel Corrie was put back on the job. That tells you something there. The Israeli government really doesn't care about putting questionable people in the OT. In fact, it encourages this sort of behavior from what I can tell.

[Darranar]

28. I have said this before...

And I will say this again. Inaction is more of a factor than action: inaction in the form of not responding to atrocities committed by its soldiers with action. I don't think Israel supports these atrocities, but rather, unfortunately, ignores them somewhat.

[Equinox]

36. Either way, Israel is culpable.

Although, I think there is a clear GOI agenda. You may not. On that we disagree. But we can agree that Israel is still culpable, no?

[Resistance]

40. you think a GOI official ordered the hit on Rachel Corrie?

or do you think it was a random act of violence on the part of the bulldozer driver? Just curious what your thought is. I think the driver was acting on orders.

[Herschel]

41. So the GOI

said flatten her to aid Israel? Please!

[Darranar]

42. Nah, not acting on orders...

It isn't clear that it was an accident, either, but I think that the chances of the driver, if he acted on purpose, also acting on orders are 1 in 100 or less.

[Herschel]

44. You seem to let reality

Stand in the way of a good conspiracy! HA!

[Darranar]

43. Basically, yes

Israel needs to be a lot more active in investigating the incidents of deaths such as the one mentioned. I think that some Israeli officials refuse to admit that there are as many incidents as reported or that a considerable number were committed on purpose.