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dcsmart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 09:53 AM
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perspectives: Gaza and Israel
reports from inside. i think it is important to hear from reporters on the ground from a Palestinian and Israeli perspective. i also provide the original article. There is some reading here, but i think it is worth it.


By Ewa Jasiewicz – Gaza City

As I write this, Israeli jets are bombing the areas of Zeitoun and Rimal in central Gaza City. The family I am staying with has moved into the internal corridor of their home to shelter from the bombing. The windows nearly blew out just five minutes ago as a massive explosion rocked the house. Apache’s are hovering above us, whilst F16s sear overhead.

FULL ARTICLE:

http://www.palestinechronicle.com/view_article_details....


Safa Joudeh writing from the occupied Gaza Strip, Live from Palestine, 27 December 2008
It was just before noon when I heard the first explosion. I rushed to my window and barely did I get there and look out when I was pushed back by the force and air pressure of another explosion. For a few moments I didn't understand but then I realized that Israeli promises of a wide-scale offensive against the Gaza Strip had materialized. Israeli Foreign Minister Tzpi Livni's statements following a meeting with Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak the day before yesterday had not been empty threats after all.

SEE FULL ARTICLE HERE:
http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article10059.shtml



By Amira Hass, Haaretz Correspondent

Tags: Israeli News, Israel, Gaza

There are many corpses and wounded, every moment another casualty is added to the list of the dead, and there is no more room in the morgue.

Relatives search among the bodies and the wounded in order to bring the dead quickly to burial. A mother whose three school-age children were killed, and are piled one on top of the other in the morgue, screams and then cries, screams again and then is silent.

SEE FULL ARTICLE HERE:
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1050636.html



FROM THE ORIGINAL ARTICLE:

The New York Times, hardly known for its sympathy for the Palestinians, acknowledged: "Still, there was a shocking quality to Saturday's attacks, which began in broad daylight as police cadets were graduating, women were shopping at the outdoor market, and children were emerging from school.

"The center of Gaza City was a scene of chaotic horror, with rubble everywhere, sirens wailing, and women shrieking as dozens of mutilated bodies were laid out on the pavement and in the lobby of Shifa Hospital so that family members could identify them. The dead included civilians, including several construction workers and at least two children in school uniforms."


(some of the socialist news sources provide better perspectives because they start from the bottom up, the people and how politics effects them)

SEE FULL ARTICLE HERE:
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2008/dec2008/pers-d29.shtm...


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subsuelo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 09:54 AM
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1. The Israelis are really brave in their F16s
flying around bombing the people of Gaza. I'm impressed with the courage it must take.
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 10:22 AM
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2. It's not about courage anymore
Edited on Mon Dec-29-08 10:24 AM by atreides1
It's all about causing the most damage to an adversary without exposing yourself to harm! And women and children are nothing more then collateral damage that is considered acceptable.

It's terrible but to make omelets you have to break a few eggs!
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 10:59 AM
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3. It'll be nice to see what that lovely omelet will end up looking like.
This will surely usher in a golden age of enlightenment in Gaza.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 11:29 AM
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5. what is the omelet in this situation?
peace? security? and end to violence?

Looks like they're poaching an egg, rather than cooking an omelett.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 11:18 AM
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4. Sice I cant post a damn picture
let me explain this. Mental picture one.

An M16 rifle has sights. Adjustable and effective to 300m in the hands of a moron. 600m in the hands of a trained soldier.

Mental picture 2, a qassam rocket has NO SIGHTS, and a CEP of god knows what. It just lands and kills random people.

A man would use his rifle for something other than shooing up in the air in front of reuters.

There are many ways to use guerrilla infantry tactic to kill people with grenades and rifles. Even improvised explosives. That is what soldiers do.

Scum shoot random unguided weapons.

To preempt: mental picture 3.

Picture a 5 foot tube with a laser seeker. It has a computer that corrects its course to make sure it hits within 5 feet of where the laser is aimed. This is a GUIDED rocket and is being used to kill hamas folks as we speak.

Aim vs no aim.
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