Fresh Israeli raids kill 7 kids in Gaza

[Alamuti Lotus]

Fresh Israeli raids kill 7 kids in Gaza

Fresh Israeli air strikes kill seven children including a one-year-old girl in the besieged Gaza strip, Palestinian hospital workers say.

The deaths came after Israeli warplanes staged dozens of bombing raids on the Gaza Strip overnight.

Four girls from the same family aged from one to 12 years old were killed in an air raid in the northern town of Jabaliya, AFP reported.

In the southern town of Rafah, Palestinians said a toddler and his two teenage brothers were killed in an Israeli air strike.

All were Hamas agents, let us assume.

[Behind the Aegis]

1. They were all targeted, let us assume.

:eyes:

[cali]

6. I understand that they weren't targeted, but

these tragic deaths were predictable and thus acceptable. And they were also avoidable. All Israel is doing is ensuring greater violence against the Israeli civilian population and the Palestinians.

[Behind the Aegis]

9. They weren't "predictable," but "possible."

Just because it is a possibility, doesn't mean it is "acceptable," and you should understand that conclusion. They were "avoidable" if nothing was done.

"All Israel is doing is ensuring greater violence against the Israeli civilian population and the Palestinians." It's all Israel's fault?

[cali]

15. no, it's absolutely predictable that in a bombing campaign such

as the one launched by the Israelis against Gaza, that civilian casualties would ensue.

And you know perfectly well I never said anything like "it's all Israel's fault." I defend Israel here on a fairly frequent basis. I also criticize Irael on a frequent basis. How is that being anti-Israel?

[Behind the Aegis]

20. Read again.

"I defend Israel here on a fairly frequent basis. I also criticize Irael on a frequent basis. How is that being anti-Israel?"

I didn't say you were anti-Israeli, now did I?

What you did say was :

"All Israel is doing is ensuring greater violence against the Israeli civilian population and the Palestinians."

You clearly blame Israel for "ensuring greater violence."

It is not predictable that such a bombing campaign would result in civilian casualties. I can predict bombing a school may result in civilian casualties. I can predict bombing a military instillation may result in non-civilian deaths.

Finally, barring semantics, predictable/possible does not equal acceptable.

[cali]

26. I blame both the Israeli gov't and Hamas

But the Israeli gov't has killed over 300 people in this horrendous attack. How does that do anything but further inflame matters and lead to greater violence? It was a disproportionate response. Honestly, do you ever criticize Israel for anything?

And yeah, predictable goddamn well does mean acceptable.

[Behind the Aegis]

28. Really?

You didn't seem to place blame on both in the comment I quoted TWICE. "Disproportionate response." This shit again? Really? So, what would be appropriate? Flowers? A few Israelis massing at the border and sending in their own "makeshift" bombs?

"Honestly, do you ever criticize Israel for anything?"

Here? Rarely. There are enough hatemongers here who can actually find a "nut" every so often that I need not comment. But, yes, I do criticize Israel.

"And yeah, predictable goddamn well does mean acceptable."

Then you need a G-ddamn dictionary!

[shira]

29. of those 300, Hamas reports 15 civilian casualties

and that's disproportionate? A 94:6 militant/civilian kill ratio?

Would proportionate response mean that Israel sends their 20-40 more effective rockets into Gaza as an equal response?

Allowing a war of attrition, by letting Israel only destroy rocket launchers every now and then, and letting the status quo continue, ensures that the conflict goes on until Hamas gets better weaponry and there are more lives lost on both sides.

Hamas needs to go. And Palestinians will be far better off without Hamas warmongers in charge.

[THUNDER HANDS]

32. where do you get those numbers from?

I was reading this morning in newsday that hospitals were reporting that 180 of the killed were Hamas security forces. So that's more of a 180:120 militant/civilian kill ratio.

[Mosby]

37. UNRWAs estimate is 57 civilians killed.

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[Behind the Aegis]

3. Please, oh please, don't make me get Violet_Crumble!

Things are already crazy as they are. WE don't need dogs fucking cats, raining going up, the moon orbiting the Sun, and BtA and VC joining forces!

Really, do piss off!

[Alamuti Lotus]

4. Yes, that was really quite disturbing

What makes matters worse is that steady enough drool like the above might bring me on board as well. Live in fear.

[Behind the Aegis]

5. Dogs really are fucking cats!

When the pro-Israeli "apologists" and the pro-Palestinian "apologists" come together, you just know the Devil bought a pair of ice skates!

[Alamuti Lotus]

8. We need not worry, I doubt it will last long..

shouldn't somebody be attacking the news source by now? That'll set things right.

Steven Wright had a theory; if heat rises, that means heaven might be hotter than hell.

[Behind the Aegis]

10. Well, press Iran is like Fox news, but I saw AFP in the report.

Just because it is a propaganda source, doesn't mean the facts are real, just the bullshit wrapping.

[cali]

7. God's Chosed idiots. sigh.

not to mention God's Chosen internet shit stirrers and God's chosen little bigots.

[summer borealis]

21. Yep.

[Behind the Aegis]

23. So you like bigoted remarks too?

[cali]

25. Uh, let me give you a hint:

Comments demonizing either the Israelis or the Palestinians or Judaism or Islam, are strictly forbidden here. And agreeing with disgusting bigoted crap just puts you in the same catagory as the person that uttered such shit.

[summer borealis]

31. Is demonizing the slaughter OK?

Is demonizing the endless warfare OK?
Is demonizing regimes that support such murder OK?

Let me know, so I can adjust my thinking accordingly.
OK?

[cali]

41. you just agreed with a post calling all Israelis savages

that post said jackshit about anything else, genius.

[oberliner]

38. Are you calling Jews savages?

Can you clarify?

[sabbat hunter]

42. so all jews

are savages?

How progressive of you to say so.

[subsuelo]

11. Israel's bravery is always so impressive

Bombing kids from the cockpit of an F16. How courageous!

[burythehatchet]

13. Its because they want peace with their neighbors. How much more peaceful

it would be if they're all dead. Low grade genocide, but they're brown folks so who the fuck cares.

[Behind the Aegis]

16. WOW! An ingnorant response from **you**?

Genocide? Know the definition? I doubt it. Brown folks? Typical iditotic response. Many Israelis are "brown folk." Everyone knows all Israelis are "white" and Palestinians "brown." :eyes:

[burythehatchet]

17. When does your shift end?

[burythehatchet]

18. Sorry clown, you have no credibility. You;re just a knee-jerk apologist

for a gang of criminals.

[Behind the Aegis]

22. So, no real response. Again, another "surprise."

:eyes:

[LeftishBrit]

19. I oppose Israel's actions here BUT they are not genocide

Unless all war is genocide.

There is no 'genocide' here on either side.

And Israelis and Palestinians cannot be reliably distinguished on the basis of skin colour.

[AnOhioan]

12. Like the US in Iraq.....

Our actions in Iraq were a recruiting poster for Bin Laden. Israel's latest "defensive measure" will do nothing but increase the power of Hamas.

Killing children, even inadvertently, does nothing but steel the resolve of those against you.

When will the people in power learn??

[burythehatchet]

14. What makes you think they haven't learned? Inspect your assumptions: Just as

the US in Iraq wants to keep the violence high when it suits them, so do the genocidal maniacs in Tel Aviv. They don't want peace. They want every Arab dead, and by gosh I will help pay for them to do it. FUCK THEM TO HELL.

[Behind the Aegis]

24. This would be funny, if you weren't actually believing your own bullshit.

[shira]

27. barbaric and savage-like. it's Sabra/Shatilla and Deir Yassin all over again

"Hamas estimated that at least 15 women and some children had been killed in the past two days. "Palestine has never seen an uglier massacre," Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh said."

http://africa.reuters.com/wire/news/usnLS245503.html

"GAZA, Dec 28 (Reuters) - Israel pounded Hamas targets in the Gaza Strip from the air on Sunday for a second day and prepared for a possible invasion of the territory after killing nearly 290 Palestinians in the opening rounds of a powerful offensive."

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15 civilians out of 290 killed amounts to over 94% of casualties being militants.

In the history of warfare going back thousands of years, I'm not certain such a militant/civilian ratio of 94:6 has ever been accomplished before.

Israel. Savages. Barbarians.

Definitely slo-motion genocide. Another holocaust in the making. :sarcasm:

[ProgressiveMuslim]

30. Universities, mosques, homes... sure look like military targets to me.

So, anyone with a penis is fair game?

Using that logic, any Israeli would be a fair target since you all serve in the IDF at some point.

This massacre is a long way from over Shira... I wouldn't be using your ugly sarcasm to dismiss the deaths of hundreds quite yet.

[oberliner]

39. The university labs were used by Hamas as a weapons manufacturing and development centre

According to Israel that's why they targeted that building.

No casualties have been reported in that attack.

[THUNDER HANDS]

33. i wonder how long this will last for

say this goes on for another week or two weeks. What happens if, after Israel ceases its military operation, the next day a few rockets are fired at Israeli settlements. What happens then? They start over again? They just let it go?

I can't imagine this offensive will DO anything to end the violence.

[subsuelo]

34. it's not meant to end violence

[Vegasaurus]

35. Stop being idiotic

when the militants murderers stop their terrorism, Israel reduces all restrictions.

No rockets? There would never have been any air strikes.

(Just like no suicide bombings, there would never have been a wall).

Unfortunately, the militant extremists want to kill Israelis more than protect their children, so they continue violence no matter what.

[subsuelo]

36. Both sides are militant murderers

I'm sorry my opposition to the extremists on both sides upsets you so much.

[oberliner]

40. This is awful

It is especially tragic when children are killed.