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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 10:41 PM Original message |
Power, Politics & Scholarship |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 07:06 AM Response to Original message |
1. Isn't that the single example of the US *not* folding to AIPAC? nt |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 07:19 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. It is not really the only one. US policy towards Israel has run hot and cold. |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 07:32 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. What are some other examples of AIPAC going to the mat and the US going |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 07:57 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. I can't really, that doesn't happen. |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 08:56 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. So the example is the only one in recent years... |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 08:57 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. How are the bushites applying pressure in the settlement arena? |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 09:29 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Recent example, first I googled up: |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 09:54 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Talk is cheap (on the part of the respective gov'ts). Cheap and |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 10:06 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Well, he certainly doesn't like Miller. Calls him an imbecile. nt |
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msmcghee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 09:14 AM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Just a small comment. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 09:35 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Thank you for straightening that out. nt |
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msmcghee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 09:49 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. No problem. It was the "American" part where I thought . . |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 09:55 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. American politics was what was under discussion. |
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msmcghee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 10:13 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Thanks for straightening that out. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 10:17 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. But it isn't dirty everywhere, or all the time. |
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msmcghee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 10:21 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Then I must ask . . |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 10:22 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Yes, because there is a lot of power and money at stake. |
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msmcghee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 10:46 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. That's true - there is a . . |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 12:32 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. I didn't say that, so I don't see why I should defend it. |
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msmcghee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 01:00 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. I keep saying I'm just comparing perspectives. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 01:50 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. "Exceptionally dirty" does imply comparison, but not with anything in particular. |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 02:41 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. In my (non-American) view: Americans have more influence over the world -for good or for ill- than |
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msmcghee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 03:40 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. I'd agree that generally, American politicians . . |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 04:10 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. No, once you control for amount of power... |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 09:40 AM Response to Reply #1 |
10. By the way, thanks for kicking this. |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 10:20 AM Response to Original message |
17. Thank you or posting this |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 10:32 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. It's like this: |
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