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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-24-07 03:27 PM Original message |
Ten reasons the left hates Israel - five good, five bad |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-24-07 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
1. It's not about "hating" Israel anymore than it is about "hating" the US |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-24-07 03:51 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Bad headline |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-24-07 03:56 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. But that is the thing they want to hide behind.... |
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Alcibiades (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-24-07 03:57 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. But hate and criticism are the same thing! |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-24-07 03:33 PM Response to Original message |
2. One can dispute, and even hate, the POLICIES of a party in Israel, yet not HATE Israel |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-24-07 03:52 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Likud is not in power |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-24-07 04:27 PM Response to Reply #5 |
16. The difference between Likud and Kadima is meaningless. |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-24-07 07:05 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. Does seem like policy has remained pretty much the same, doesn't it? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-24-07 04:16 PM Response to Reply #2 |
15. I haven't. I've witnessed way more |
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breakaleg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-24-07 04:50 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. There's a reason for that. They go to another forum, link our threads and make their attacks there. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-24-07 08:16 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. I had that experience myself. |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-24-07 10:22 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. It's happened to me as well... |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-24-07 03:50 PM Response to Original message |
3. What the hell does criticism of Israel, or... |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-24-07 03:53 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Progressives seems to be critical of Israel from a different angle |
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Alcibiades (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-24-07 04:14 PM Response to Reply #7 |
14. And Americans are critical in ways that differ from Europeans |
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Alcibiades (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-24-07 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
6. Who the heck is "the left?" |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-24-07 03:54 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. The only charge of "anti-semitism" by the author is against those who compare Israel to Nazi Germany |
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Alcibiades (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-24-07 04:11 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. There's also reason number 3 |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-24-07 04:09 PM Response to Original message |
11. Desiring the destruction of a nation is "progressive?" |
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liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-24-07 04:13 PM Response to Original message |
13. It is not about hating Israel as much as it being tired of fighting their fight |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-24-07 04:36 PM Response to Original message |
17. The left DOESN'T "Hate Israel" It expresses legitimate criticisms of the Israeli government |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-24-07 04:46 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Sorry, I've seen plenty of folks on the left express hatred |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-24-07 08:46 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. Some people on the left, perhaps...but it is totally unfair to say "The Left Hates Israel" |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-25-07 05:21 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. I didn't throw out a broad statement- you managed that |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-25-07 05:29 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Saying "The Left hates Israel" is both a broad statement and hyperbole... |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-25-07 06:29 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Violet, violet, violet |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-25-07 06:40 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Cali, Cali, Cali... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-25-07 06:54 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Deleted message |
Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-25-07 07:05 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Well seeing as how I wasn't imitating you, they can say it all they like... |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-25-07 08:31 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Let me try this again: |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-25-07 09:17 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Calm down. We seem to be speaking past one another. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-25-07 06:29 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. I didn't say that YOU use emotional blackmail...I meant the hard-line "pro-Israel" types |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-25-07 06:33 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Yes, thanks. |
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