Someone has gone insane in the Middle East

[MissHoneychurch]

What the heck is going on there????? And why is Israel suddenly attacking the Lebanon???? I really don't understand it.
And why is nobody complaining about the attacking???

Plese wake me up again when either the World has gone sane again or when the World is bombed in pieces ....

:yoiks:

[Robbien]

1. No one is complaining because the US Administration backs Israel

No one complained when we invaded and bombed Iraq because they were intimidated, the same is true now that our 51st state is starting a preemtive war.

[MissHoneychurch]

4. I guess they learned from the U.S.

great. Let us start wars again for no reason. What a lesson is that * brings into the world??? Just start another war, we won't complain. As much as I detest Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, one almost can understand why he wants to defend his country. If he has an A-bomb the U.S. won't invade the Iran. It's their only chance NOT to get invaded.

[Retired AF Dem]

8. Two cross border operations into Israel

an overt act of war against Israel. Preemptive, not.

[Robbien]

14. So says the corporate media

which does not report that a full blown war is being waged on Palestine. It only reports that one of their soldiers has been captured and they are retaliating. Sure, retaliation, US taxpayer funded bombs and war planes used on a country whose only defense is handmade rockets.

If any overt acts of war are being made they are being made by the country who has huge piles of US funded fancy war supplies they are itching to make use of.

[brmdp3123]

17. You are correct.

[aquart]

10. You've got it backward. Completely.

Israel is being raided and struck because Bush has revealed that the United States has NO power to protect Israel. Our military superiority has been completely debunked. And it's tied up in Iraq and Afghanistan. We also can't give extra financial aid because we're dead broke and in debt.

So the huge nations surrounding tiny Israel have been emboldened.

You mistake Israel's aggressive response for the sign of a strong nation. You pay too much attention to Bush's assinine posturing. A WEAK nation is the one which must strike back immediately and strongly at the smallest incursion. THAT is what is occurring now.

America's problem is that Bush doesn't understand this basic International Relations 101 lesson. He routinely forces America to give a WEAK nation's response instead of a STRONG nation's response. As a result, America is no longer perceived as strong. Israel has depended on our strength and now must go it alone.

That is what you are seeing.

[brmdp3123]

16. Israel has been 'raided and struck' since it was created in 1948.

This has happened regardless of who the American president was, what party he belonged to, whether America was at war somewhere else or not. Sorry, but I don't think that we can blame this one on Bush.

[Clark2008]

19. "Tiny" Israel?

:rofl:

Their weapons cache DWARFS those of the "huge" nations surrounding them.

Come on!

It matter not their size, but of the stick they carry.

[ixion]

21. yeah, no sympathy for Israel

they made the bed they're lying in, and in the region they're a weapons powerhouse, thanks in large part to the US propping up the rogue regime.

[Sapphocrat]

24. "So the huge nations surrounding tiny Israel have been emboldened."

Which is exactly the part of the Middle East "destabilization" (set in motion by invading Iraq) that the warmongering freeper hordes have never, ever been able to comprehend.

Well, no need to try to explain it to them now, is there? The dominoes are falling, exactly (and unfortunately) as we predicted.

[sabbat hunter]

27. wtf

does that mean? our 51st state?


israel is bombing lebanon because hezbollah, which basically runs southern lebanon without any government interference, invaded and attacked israel and captured 2 israeli soldiers in an unprovoked attack. now they are bombing israel as well.

[WCGreen]

2. It's all a mess.....

It's all I can say....

[MissHoneychurch]

6. You got that right n/t

[mduffy31]

3. Well doll

I guess you are planning to sleep like Sleepy Beauty because this world ain't ever gonna be right again.

[MissHoneychurch]

5. Unfortunately not

not as long as nutcases are presidents and leaders. Sometimes I want to put all those warmongers from all over the world in one room and let them make it out underneath them with fits. And let the rest of the world live in peace.

[fasttense]

7. They are reacting to the instability the US introduced by

attacking Iraq.

[MissHoneychurch]

9. The Middle East was never stable

since the 40s I believe.

[Spider Jerusalem]

12. Actually not since the 1920's...

the consequences of the breakup of the Ottoman Empire after the First World War are still being felt today.

[brmdp3123]

18. Actually, it hasn't been stable since like, forever, maybe.

[YankeeFan]

28. Earlier than that

Go read the novel Exodus.

While the book itself is fictional, much of the novel was based on fact.

Have you ever heard the word Pogrom? You might want to look it up.

[DELUSIONAL]

11. I think what happened is that Israel didn't like the outcome of

the election in Gaza -- Palestinians elected Hamas.

So waiting for a reason to invade Gaza and deal with Hamas a gang attacked an Israeli military outpost and kidnapped an Israeli soldier. This was the excuse that the new Israelie Prime Minister needed to deal with Hamas.

So while Gaza endures collective punishment -- "Hezbollah seizes Israel soldiers"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5171616.stm


Hezbollah is demanding the release of Palestinian prisoners in exchange for the release of Israel soldiers.

for a review of just who the Hezbollah are -- see:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4314423.stm

So now Israel according to the newest BBC report has blockaded Lebanon's seaport and airport.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5175160.stm

More collective punishment??

Oh and meanwhile -- Michael Jackson is being sued by his ex-wife -- seems he owns her money.

[Clark2008]

20. That's it in a nutshell.

They've been looking for an excuse to go on a rampage since the elections - one kidnapped soldier did that for them.

[Hubert Flottz]

13. The neocons are all looking foreward to Armageddon.

They want to join Kenny Boy in Hell I guess!

[DELUSIONAL]

15. Oh I forgot -- the Rapture Right is very excited

the version of Jesus -- come back in a cloud needs lots of dead bodies in the middle east.

What sort of a god would want piles of bodies in order to return for a bunch of religious nuts???


Which is why we don't see any peace making efforts from the US --- because the white house is under the control of a supposed born again fella.

[Sapphocrat]

22. Others can tell you why...

...it's happening now, but this not-so-cold cold war between Hezbollah (Shiite Lebanese resistance/terrorist org) and Israel has been going on since the 1980s, and has to do with Israel's occupation of southern Lebanon -- and now Hezbollah has kidnapped a couple of Israel soldiers, so Israel is bombing Beirut. (That's what I think is going on; it's hard to keep up with every detail, and if I'm wrong, I know somebody will correct me.)

Anyway, as to why nobody is "complaining about the attacking," all I can say is: READ CHOMSKY.

Seriously.

Any other response would get this whole thread drop-kicked to the I/P dungeon.

[cali]

26. Speaking of blind

What simplistic pap. There are blind allegiances to both sides evident on this board. Both sides are vociferous in their righteousness. As someone in the middle, who believes that Israel has a right to exist, that the occupation of the WB is illegal and dead wrong, that the incursion into Gaza was indeed a travesty, these blind allegiances make me want to vomit

Since the Israeli incursion into Lebanon yesterday, I've seen Israel called a rabid dog that should be put down and calls for the bombing of Israeli infrastructure, as well as callous indifference to Lebanese lives.

It's all sickening.

And Hizbollah did more than capture a couple of soldiers.

[acmejack]

23. You will certainly be awaken to the latter.

Israel can do no wrong, at least on this board. Her supporters are legion and vociferous. I give them credit for their loyalty, blind though it may be. Obviously the US tacitly supports the actions of the rogue Israel, for that is what she is, a rogue. I once held Israel in great regard, believing all the noble propaganda written by Uris. Unfortunately I learned the truth, or should I say "The rest of the story".

[legin]

25. when you start a war, try not to get the blame for starting it

Is Iran going to come to the conference table and compromise with the u.s. over its nuclear weapons programme while the Israel/Palestine issue is going red-hot ??

Not in a million years.

And Olmert was meeting bush* less than a month ago, so Olmert has got the green light for this squalid garbage (probably).