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Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 10:56 PM
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Gaza is basically a concentration camp that the Israelis bomb at will.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/06/29/israel.soldier/index.html

The Israelis have come full circle. The once oppressed is now the oppressor.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 11:27 PM
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1. And doesn't that make yuh feel good?
So tell me, how come all those rich Arab oil nations are leaving the Palestinians to rot? How come they aren't spitting in the face of Israel and pouring in aid to the Palestinians? US support? The US couldn't support a grape in that region right now. And if the Saudis or Dubai or Kuwait wanted to do it, what exactly would Georgie say? "Please don't hit me"?

The postage stamp of Israel is cruelly oppressing arabs while surrounded by what? a hundred million arabs? How do you figure that is? What could possibly be the reason that the Arab nations are sitting back and letting the Palestinians destroy themselves? Oh, wait. Israel is destroying them. THey, of course, are a model of good government, sane fiscal planning, and humane behavior.

How did that young Israeli die, btw?
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 11:29 PM
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2. Attacking with missiles is not the fucking answer.
I'm not taking sides, but I think this was wrong and I think the Israeli people know this was wrong.
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Techno Dog Donating Member (555 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 11:48 PM
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10. First
The soldier isn't dead.

Second, until those Arab countries are allowed to send weapons to protect the aid israel will just keep bulldozing and fire missiles at will.
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 11:33 PM
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3. Collective punishment is a terrible thing whether it is
Israelis or anyone else doing it. The Israelis have just bombed the main power and water stations for hundreds of thousands of people in retaliation for the kidnapping of a soldier. There is no justification for the collective punishment of men women and children by making them starve and thirst.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 11:34 PM
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4. They are also withholding food and medicine from Gaza.
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BayCityProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 11:39 PM
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5. those people also
Edited on Thu Jun-29-06 11:45 PM by BayCityProgressive
voted for a terrorist party that they knew would sponsor attakcs such as this in an overwhelming majority. At some point don't citizens have to hold some responsibility? Even so, I don't support the bombing of electricity and water facilities. Israel has hwoever, proved time and again that they are better and more humane than terror groups like Hamas. Also, if you are actually comparing what is happening in the middle east to Nazi concentration camps you are inflammatory, anti-semitic, and just plain sick really.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 11:41 PM
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6. I'm plane sick am I? LOL last time I looked I was safely seated on the
dangerous ground. And you my friend sound like a fucking nut case.
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BayCityProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 11:47 PM
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9. Yes
it is okay to compare Israel to Nazi's running concentration camps...you are a fucking moron. How am I nuts? For saying I oppose bombing water and electrity providers? Or for stating the truth that the people of Palestine elected terorists. Sorry dumb fuck it's true. I am sorry you support them.
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sir_captain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 11:44 PM
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8. Agreed. This is very troubling.
IMO, it is also troubling that someone would compare this (admittedly pretty awful) act to the systematic genocide of six million people at the hands of the leading scientific, culturual and intellectual nation in the world.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 11:49 PM
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11. Just a little change...
"...systematic genocide of six million people at the hands..." It was actually 11 million total, it was 6 million Jews.
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sir_captain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 11:50 PM
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13. Thanks for the correction
you are absolutely right.
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sir_captain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 11:42 PM
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7. A lot of blame to go around on both sides
the ridiculous cycle of violence in I/P is horrendous. Much of the time, Israeli policy is ignorant and endlessly narrow-minded. At the same time, comparing the situation there to Nazi Germany is equally ignorant and narrow-minded.
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Scorpio2001 Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 11:50 PM
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12. Put on your thinking cap
and name the only nation EVER to offer the "palestinians" a state of their own.

(hint: it wasn't Jordan, Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, Yemen, Iraq, Saudi Arabia or Kuwait (they actually cleansed the kingdom of palestinians in 1991).

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BayCityProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 11:52 PM
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14. it also
wasn't Israel that began kidnapping Palestinians and threatening to murder them if they didn't get what they wanted. WHo needs facts and details though? It is Even taboo here to point out the obvious fact that the Palestinians overwhelmingly voted for a terrorist organization.
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Scorpio2001 Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 12:03 AM
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15. Voting for a neo-fascist state
It's embarrasing to be a Democrat knowing that this type of thinking is prevelant among "progressives"

One would think that some of these folks actully believe that history started in 1967, with the creation of the "palestinians". They conveniently forget, or ignore 20 brutal years of military occupation of both gaza and "west bank"

Hamas has never changed its charter and has clearly stated its intent to destroy Isreal. Not negotiate, not seek two states, not seek peace. This is who the "palestinians" chose to lead them. Well is it any wonder that its led to war?
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 12:04 AM
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16. Welcome Back from the Dead.
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Scorpio2001 Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 12:12 AM
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18. The Greatful Dead n/t
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 12:09 AM
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17. Now where is Buffy when we really need her.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 12:12 AM
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19. it`s a god dam blood feud
if the palestinian people elect a government that the Israeli don `t like they use there military power to make bigger piles of shit then the Palestinians blow up some bus , market place, or murder some kid hitch hiking..it just never fucking stops. the arab countries don`t give a shit about the problem and to the west the jews are just being trouble makers again. i guess if the jews and the arabs keep killing each other off without expanding the war outside their little area of the world no one will seriously do anything to stop these two tribes of semites
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Lithos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 12:14 AM
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