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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 04:42 AM
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West Bank settler suspected of smuggling sniper rifles from U.S.
A resident of the West Bank settlement of Tapuah was indicted Wednesday for allegedly smuggling sniper rifles from the United States.

Jeffrey Emanuel Seth, 39, was charged with illegally importing and possessing weapons, ammunition, and additional equipment from the U.S.

Police suspect he intended to use the weapons to attack Palestinians, a police spokesman said.

Seth, a new immigrant from the U.S., was arrested at the Haifa port June 11 after claiming a shipping container that contained a snipers' rifle, a bullet-making machine, gunpowder and cartridges that he had sent to himself from the U.S.

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At an earlier hearing on the extension of his remand, Seth said that he was a hunter and that the thought of "hunting Arabs" crossed his mind every time he saw a suicide bombing. The indictment does not include charges relating to plans to use the weapons that were smuggled.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/729670.html
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Englander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 05:27 AM
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1. This character's a one-man arms manufacturer -
>snip

According to the charge sheet, the container imported from the U.S. contained two sniper rifles, 6,500 empty bullet cartridges and 49 boxes, each of which contained 100 bullet caps.

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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 12:57 PM
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2. I'm starting to believe some of the most militant and destructive...
...elements in Israeli society are fueled primarily by some Diasporic American Jews who are willing to support a radical minority with money or ideologues who, prior to entering Israel, have very little understanding of the true diversity of Israeli culture. Kahanists indoctrinated in Brooklyn, for instance, join up for "the fight" with various organizations, come to Israel and become part of extremely militant, isolationist, ultra-Orthodox conservative kibbutzim where they receive little exposure to the broad spectrum of Israeli consciousness.

  This connection is not overlooked by the FBI but often isn't mentioned for whatever reason when discussion turns to radical militancy among the ultra-orthodox in Israel.

  It is reminiscent of the indoctrination by Elijah Mohamed of Malcom X in regards to the nature of Islam. Malcom X, after traveling to the Muslim nations and see for himself that the Elijah Mohammed's propaganda (in this case against "The White Man") was a deception; racist distortion in the guise of the true message of Islam.

PB

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Scorpio2000 Donating Member (144 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 01:27 PM
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3. Smugglers here, Smugglers there
Edited on Thu Jun-22-06 01:28 PM by Scorpio2000
No doubt the American Israeli was going to use his weapons towards nefarious ends. What do you suppose the explosive devices smuggled into Gaza would be used for? New home construction?

"Israel has learned that the Palestinians are taking advantages of the weapons smuggling tunnels linking Egypt with the Gaza Strip to sneak millions of Euros into the territories to ease the financial crisis. The money, mostly in 500 Euro bills to minimize its volume, is an oxygen pipe for the PA, which is suffocating under the pressures of international sanctions.


Prime Minister Ehud Olmert asked Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak to fight the smuggling, official sources in Jerusalem told Ynet late Tuesday.


Shin Bet Head Yuval Diskin told the Knesset's Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee Tuesday that "since September, some USD 20 million
have been smuggled into the Gaza Strip and made their way into Hamas' hands."


Apart from the money, the Palestinians also smuggled 11 tons of TNT explosives into Gaza since Israel withdrew from the Philadelphi route last summer. Diskin said that the Shin Bet perceives smuggling as a serious problem, since the materials brought into the Strip are used for improving Qassam warheads, and for producing explosive belts and explosive devices."
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3259724,00.html
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 04:47 AM
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4. Murdering Arabs is merely 'nefarious ends'?
Because he said himself he was going to hunt them. Instead of trying to change the subject, how about an attempt at discussing the article that was posted?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 11:15 AM
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 07:44 AM
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6. The poster used an appropriate word
as my last post regarding this was deleted, here's a repeat definition of the word nefarious from Merrian Webter:

Nefarious: very wicked, evil, bad, immoral, iniquitous, sinful, vicious.

Stating that something is merely nefarious is like describing a corpse as dead.
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 07:47 AM
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7. Thanks for the stirring defence of Scorpio...
Edited on Mon Jun-26-06 07:48 AM by Violet_Crumble
...but considering the 'verbal bomb throwing' that some are engaged in (eg calling Palestinians cowards and barbaric), nefarious is a word with a reasonably mild connotation.....

btw, do you have anything to say about the OP at all?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 07:58 AM
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8. As should be perfectly clear,
I was defending proper use of language, not a person. Also, although you note that Palestinians are subject to verbal bomb throwing, you omit that Israelis are subject to just as much verbal crap. Both sides do it, Violet. And sorry, nefarious does not have a mild connotation, no matter how much anyone insists that it does.

No, I don't have anything to say about the OP.
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 08:15 AM
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9. No, it shouldn't be perfectly clear....
btw, this isn't a 'proper use of language' forum, and yr idea of what a word connotes is not the be all and end all. To me it conjures up visions of Oliver Twist and is more along the lines of naughtiness than anything else....


My point about the 'verbal bomb throwing' was that if a Palestinian had done this the language would have been so much more intense. And if current trends are anything to go on, the term Palestinian would have been enclosed in quotations to denote a denial of their existance as a people, not that some folk here with a thing about proper language would have an issue with it. My point was not to say A does it and B does too, because that's perfectly clear to anyone who's been in this forum for a fair while...

Why don't you have anything to say about the OP? Don't you think the sentiments expressed by the guy who was charged are absolutely disgusting?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 08:21 AM
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 08:25 AM
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11. I know what the word means...
While I've got you here, do you think you can pop over to this thread and answer the question you were asked? http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=124x128735#128788
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ManiacJoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 02:12 AM
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12. You are correct about the word usage. (n/t)
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 03:30 AM
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13. No, they're not. (n/t)
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 06:35 AM
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14. Heh.
This is amusing. I provide the dictionary definition, and you provide....... your opinion. Reminds me of a certain scene in Monty Python's "Holy Grail".
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 07:44 AM
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15. I'm glad you find playing Duelling Dictionaries amusing...
But whatever dictionary it was you were using (if it was a dictionary and not just opinion)isn't the be-all-and-end-all. 'VERY wicked', my arse. The Oxford definition is wicked, iniquitous. Nothing about evil or sinful there...

btw, rather than just fixate on one word in a thread, maybe we could work together to get this thread back to its actual topic?
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