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occuserpens Donating Member (836 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 10:30 PM
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Exiles: Iran Jews to wear yellow
2006-05-19 The dressing code war?

YNet. Exiles: Iran Jews to wear yellow ribbons

Iranian expatriates reveal that ‘National Uniform Law’ authorized by Iranian parliament includes clause obligating Iranian Jews to wear yellow ribbon; Christians, other minority members to wear colored ribbons as well. ‘If law passes non-Muslims’ lives will become intolerable
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 10:35 PM
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1. The passage of this law has been debunked 3 times now. See inside.
Here and here: Experts say report of badges for Jews in Iran is untrue

If you feel the need for the third, don't bother asking, it ain't going to change your mind, anyway.

PB
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 10:37 PM
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3. Ah
Well, that's a relief.
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sabbat hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 12:23 PM
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21. even though debunked
i wouldnt put it past the current regime of Iran to do such a thing.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 10:36 PM
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2. Terrifying
Do you think the resemblance to Nazi Germany was intentional or just dumb?
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 10:38 PM
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4. For disinfo, definitely intentional. n/t
PB
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 10:38 PM
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5. You are now a tool in the hands of the war machine.
That is trying to demonize and scapegoat Iran so that we can destroy it.

Does it feel good?
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 10:53 PM
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7. In Occupied Palestine, all adults are required to walk around with
Identity cards, and strange how few people seem to worry about that. Not having one of these means you are subject to arrest and maybe even torture, which is as common as parking ticket here in the US
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pelsar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 11:13 PM
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11. in israel...all adults are required to walk around with
Identity cards.....and strange who few people seem to worry abou that....

now either you didnt know about that....or you did , but decided to ignore such a basic fact of israeli life.

hmmm...which is the best route?...ignorence of such a basic fact of israeli life and then pretend to know whats going on?...or ignore such a basic fact, to show how evil the israelis are...tough decision


so which one is it?
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 11:24 PM
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12. I was talking about the Occupied Territories. Why should Palestinians
be required to show ID's to Israeli soldiers? this is not what they have chosen for themselves. Was there some election where Palestinians were allowed to vote on the question? Or did they vote for representatives who made a decision to implement such a requirement?

Palestine is under military occupation, and many US citizens are unaware of this.
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pelsar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 12:39 AM
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16. IDs..
Edited on Sat May-20-06 12:41 AM by pelsar
something about sucide bombers hiding behind civilian clothes and blowing up people...or shooters wearing civilian clothes and "spraying people' with machine gun fire. (for some this is legit.....)

guess for some people ID checks, a standard in the middle east culture, are far worse then preventing people from being killed or for preventing the legitimate resistance of killing civilians where ever they can be found...interesting set of values...but no surprise here....some lives are worth less than a mere ID check.
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 11:56 AM
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18. Another perspective is that some support the illegal occupation
and value that more than the lives of Palestinians and Israelis.

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sabbat hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 12:29 PM
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22. it is legal
because since the territories are under occupation, the occupying body has a right and in fact must keep the territory safe as can be. part of keeping the territory safe is to check IDs and make sure no one is trying to create problems. the allied forces conqured Germany. do you think until they pulled out that they allowed people to walk around without ID cards?

until a peace is negotiated with the palestian government, or a peace is imposed on them because they refuse to negotiate, the occupying force has to keep the peace.


i have a question. what if israel withdraws to the green line and terror attacks continue from the west bank, gaza aka palestine, would israel then have a right to go to war and get rid of the terrorists to protect itself?
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 10:48 PM
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6. This rates to be as credible as the "pulled the plug on incubators" hoax
It was Tom Lantos who was part of that hoax (Iraqi soldiers were pulling plugs on Kuwaiti infants), to justify the first war against Iraq,and now he is itchin for another war.

Now we get this fantasy. Again, a story circulated by certain Iranian "expatriates" who may have a certain agenda.

These are the same expatriates who are going to tell Rummy where all the "weapons of mass destruction" are?

I know this was posted as a joke, but there are people, even here, that are going to take this as gospel truth.

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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 10:54 PM
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8. "...even here, that are going to take this as gospel truth."
You got that right.

PB
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 11:11 PM
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10. More on Tom "war supporter" Lantos, and his previous stories
A little reportorial investigation would have done a great service to the democratic process. Americans would have been interested to know the identity of "Nayirah," the 15-year-old Kuwaiti girl who shocked the Congressional Human Rights Caucus on Oct. 10, 1990, when she tearfully asserted that she had watched 15 infants being taken from incubators in Al-Adan Hospital in Kuwait City by Iraqi soldiers who "left the babies on the cold floor to die." The chairmen of the Congressional group, Tom Lantos, a California Democrat, and John Edward Porter, an Illinois Republican, explained that Nayirah's identity would be kept secret to protect her family from reprisals in occupied Kuwait.

There was a better reason to protect her from exposure: Nayirah, her real name, is the daughter of the Kuwaiti Ambassador to the U.S., Saud Nasir al-Sabah. Such a pertinent fact might have led to impertinent demands for proof of Nayirah's whereabouts in August and September of 1990, when she said she witnessed the atrocities, as well as corroboration of her charges. The Kuwaiti Embassy has rebuffed my efforts to interview Nayirah.

Today, we are left to ask why Mr. Lantos and Mr. Porter allowed such glaring omissions. What made Nayirah so believable that no one on the caucus staff bothered to check out her story?

One explanation might lie in how Nayirah came to the Congressmen's attention. Both Congressmen have a close relationship with Hill and Knowlton, the public relations firm hired by Citizens for a Free Kuwait, the Kuwaiti-financed group that lobbied Congress for military intervention. A Hill and Knowlton vice president, Gary Hymel, helped organize the Congressional Human Rights Caucus hearing in meetings with Mr. Lantos and Mr. Porter and the chairman of Citizens for a Free Kuwait, Hassan al-Ebraheem. Mr. Hymel presented the witnesses, including Nayirah. (He later told me he knew who she was at the time.)
http://www.hbo.com/films/livefrombaghdad/related.shtml

There is no tie to Lantos and this story about dress codes in Iran, except the power of propaganda, even obvious lies & deceptions, in making war possible.
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Malikshah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 11:48 PM
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13. I, for one, would like to know the histories of said Iranian
expatriots.
Some are justifiably horrified at what has gone on in their country since the overthrow of the Shah.
Others...well, let's just say that some are just pissed that the gravy train ended when their leader was forced out of the country...
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 12:00 AM
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14. A bit of researhc by NYC Liberal can be found at link inside.
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Malikshah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 12:23 AM
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15. Thanks-- Taheri is one
I'm wondering where the other Iranian "Chalabis" are...

Benador Assoc. the bane of my existence... I actually knew someone on the list... ugh.
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 10:57 PM
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9. The irony here, the people pushing this propaganda. many support a war
with Iran, that will kill many, many people. Including Christians, Jews, and Muslims.
U.S. bombs are equal opportunity, after all.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 10:08 AM
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17. Huffington Post has a story on this. National Post Newspaper in
Canada.. the home of the neocons. And I am not even sure if that newspaper has ever broken even. One of those anti-market things the neocons like to do. I just think it is about tearing people apart. Very sad.
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occuserpens Donating Member (836 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 02:18 PM
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19. "Iranian dressing code": black PR op
http://inplainview.monitor.us.tt/comm.ME06.htm">2006-05-20 "Iranian dressing code": black PR op
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occuserpens Donating Member (836 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 11:23 PM
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20. Corrected link is here!
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