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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 06:34 AM
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Report: Zahar says 'There's no room for Israel on this land'
Palestinian Foreign Minister Mahmoud Zahar was quoted in a weekend interview to a Chinese news agency defending Hamas' declared goal of eventually destroying Israel.

Zahar, a prominent Hamas leader sworn into the Palestinian Authority cabinet last week, told the Xinhua news agency that he is certain the goal will be realized, because "There is no place for Israel on this land."

According to the interview, Zahar maintained that Palestinians have no problem with the Jewish religion, only with the Israeli occupation, and said he does not rule out the possibility of Jews, Muslims and Christians living together in one Islamic state.

Zahar, considered to be among the more militant of Hamas leaders sworn into the PA government last Wednesday, conceded to Xinhua that Hamas could possibly accept a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. However, he dismissed Israel's declared support of such a solution.

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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 08:35 AM
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1. Zahar is an idiot. Another loudmouth politician.
Reminds me of the Bushites in their better days, or even now when blathering about all the "progress" in Iraq. If you read carefully though, he hedges his bets.
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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 01:19 PM
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2. living together in one Islamic state?
Sounds good--fair and democratic, unless your a Zionist of course, then even the two-state solution is treason against the 'childrens' desert tales' crowd.
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Dominus Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 02:12 PM
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3. An Islamic state would be fair and democratic
Unless, of course, you are a Jew, Christian, secular, liberal, female, LGBT, etc.

I don't know why you think it would be "good" to destroy the Jewish State and replace it with a Islamic theocracy.

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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 02:18 PM
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4. So long..
as the Jewish people, where ever they maybe are protected, then so what...

But your on wrong board...people don't usually equate Islam with "a Jew, Christian, secular, liberal, female, LGBT, etc." The original dream of Israel is long long gone--so there isn't much to support.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 05:39 PM
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5. My wife's cat is protected.
You'd hate to be protected: put in a virtual cage, rights proscribed, and actions either tolerated or dictated. It's rather like a protection racket: you do as we say, and we'll protect you from us. The antithesis of anything democratic.

Protection might be fine for pigs and monkeys (I suspect PETA might object), but not Jews or Xians or LGBT or females or atheists. Those are people, and have rights, dignity, and deserve some form of equality and freedom. Their rights and equality ought not depend on submission to Allah or Muslims in an Islamic state.

I neither want a keeper nor want to be a keeper. Same goes for having or being a "protector", as defined in the most common traditional Muslim view, irrespective of fiqh.
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pelsar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 10:30 PM
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9. great..we'll be "protected"
as long as we do what our master wants....

outside of that Israel is doing pecisly what was inevitable....fighting for its acceptance as an equal partner in this world....something thats never been accepted, be it the jewish persons or the jewish state....
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 09:36 PM
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7. Fair and democratic?... Saudi Arabia is an Islamic state
Name an Islamic state that is fair to women or non Islamic citizens.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 09:23 PM
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6. It's good this Hamas leader is the foreign minister. Then the
Edited on Sun Apr-02-06 09:36 PM by barb162
whole world can see what Hamas is really about if they were too dumb to figure it out up to this time. His intent is made totally clear:"There is no place for Israel on this land."
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King Mongo Donating Member (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 10:38 PM
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10. There are two sides of his claims:
Edited on Mon Apr-03-06 10:40 PM by King Mongo
"accept a two-state solution"

... and...

"There is no place for Israel on this land"



If "accept a two-state solution" is possible, then "There is no place for Israel on this land"
means that there is no place for Israel in Yesha (West Bank) and Gaza.

On the otherhand, it is possible that he prefers that "There is no place for Israel on this land (greater Palestine)", but recognizes that a "two-state solution" is the more likely future situation which his children will learn to accept, kind of like the Likud party recognizing that the dream of "Greater Israel" has died.

It is important to recognize that many individuals on both sides dream of a "Greater" one-State solution to the conflict, but they are aware that they are going to be forced to accept a two-State solution.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 09:31 PM
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8. I'm shocked, shocked!
Captain Renault: I'm shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here!

Memorable Quotes from Casablanca (1942)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0034583/quotes
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