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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 09:58 PM Original message |
It's not all in the details. Amira Hass on checkpoints and their purpose |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 10:57 PM Response to Original message |
1. Cut the bullshit and stop the terrorism. Then the checkpoints will |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 11:12 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. If you read the article, you see the purpose of the checkpoints is |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 11:18 PM Response to Reply #2 |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 11:21 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Being opposed to oppression and destruction isn't self-hatred.. |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 11:23 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. But exaggerating the extent of it may well be. |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 11:27 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. She isn't... |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 11:53 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. She is, on both counts. |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-31-05 12:15 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. She most definately isn't |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 11:47 PM Response to Reply #6 |
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Coastie for Truth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-31-05 11:06 AM Response to Reply #5 |
17. Who has been exposed to oppression and destruction? |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-01-06 03:31 AM Response to Reply #17 |
27. Are you saying the Palestinians haven't been? |
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Coastie for Truth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-01-06 07:00 AM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Because it's not "something else" |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-01-06 07:07 AM Response to Reply #30 |
33. The discussion was about Palestinians... |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 11:36 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. This is called Dissent. Challanging your government's policies |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 11:45 PM Response to Reply #3 |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 11:54 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. I'm not a racist, just an unapologetic Zionist. Too bad if you don't |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-31-05 12:17 AM Response to Reply #13 |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 11:44 PM Response to Reply #1 |
9. To cut the terrorism of the Palestinian community by Israel, ... |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 11:55 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. Bull. |
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Colorado Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-31-05 02:21 PM Response to Reply #9 |
21. Terror existed before the War of 1967. Terror existed |
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Coastie for Truth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-31-05 04:10 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. As I have frequently posted (and been accused of "hijacking" threads) |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-31-05 09:31 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. True, terror existed before 1967. Example... King David Hotel |
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Coastie for Truth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-31-05 10:52 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. See append 24 - Hebron 1929. |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-01-06 03:29 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. And what's that got to do with Tom's post? |
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Coastie for Truth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-01-06 06:56 AM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Terror existed before 1948 |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-01-06 07:09 AM Response to Reply #29 |
34. Yes, and Tom had already pointed that out... |
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eyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-01-06 08:37 AM Response to Reply #26 |
41. Maybe because he was trying to present |
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Colorado Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-01-06 09:55 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. Exactly. Thank you. EOM. |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-01-06 11:04 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. Read the post he was replying to.. |
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eyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 04:37 AM Response to Reply #46 |
63. No |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 07:10 AM Response to Reply #63 |
71. Yr wrong, eyl... |
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eyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 10:20 AM Response to Reply #71 |
79. Even assuming for the sake of argument that's so |
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Colorado Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-01-06 10:23 PM Response to Reply #23 |
45. And you don't think the Jews, the Israelis, were afraid????? |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-01-06 11:06 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Why do you think he isn't seeing this from both sides?????????? |
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Colorado Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 04:10 AM Response to Reply #47 |
57. No, respectfully, I have read many posts by this gentleman |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 07:07 AM Response to Reply #57 |
70. The same can be said about the post he's replying to... |
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Englander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-01-06 05:58 AM Response to Reply #21 |
28. Those *TERRORISTS* became Israeli PMs. |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-01-06 07:10 AM Response to Reply #28 |
35. Time for a diversionary Hebron 1929 linky!! |
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Englander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-01-06 07:16 AM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Ha! There's a lot of them about, aren't there? |
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Coastie for Truth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-01-06 07:37 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. A diversionary linky with a smilie |
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Englander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-01-06 07:45 AM Response to Reply #38 |
40. That would work as well, that's also an effective - |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-01-06 07:36 AM Response to Reply #35 |
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Englander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-01-06 07:44 AM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Wrong. n/t |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-01-06 09:52 PM Response to Reply #35 |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-01-06 11:08 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. Try reading the discussion... |
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Colorado Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 04:15 AM Response to Reply #48 |
58. Say again? When did I justify attacks by - did you mean |
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Englander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 04:35 AM Response to Reply #58 |
62. Post #42. |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 07:13 AM Response to Reply #58 |
72. I did NOT demean the memory of the Hebron victims... |
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Colorado Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 04:15 AM Response to Reply #48 |
59. Are we now using the term "Zionist" in the pejorative sense, |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 07:16 AM Response to Reply #59 |
73. As a scholar you should know how the term is used... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 03:31 PM Response to Reply #73 |
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Coastie for Truth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 03:43 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. Ha Shanah B'Yerushalayim |
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Colorado Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 04:06 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. L'chaim, Coastie. I wish people who feel so free to talk about |
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Wordie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 04:18 PM Response to Reply #81 |
84. CB...I'd have to disagree. When things are posted that are highly biased |
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Englander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 04:28 AM Response to Reply #43 |
60. Bernadotte was Jewish? Who. Knew? n/t |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 07:33 AM Response to Reply #35 |
77. A very clear clarification of my post... |
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Colorado Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-01-06 09:51 PM Response to Reply #28 |
42. Oh gimme a break. The Irgun and other such groups were |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-01-06 11:13 PM Response to Reply #42 |
49. Excusing terrorism is a disgusting thing... |
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Coastie for Truth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-01-06 11:14 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. That's because so many posts excuse terrorism by the Palestinians |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-01-06 11:18 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Care to give links to all these many posts that do so? |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 01:12 AM Response to Reply #51 |
55. Lucky I wasn't holding my breath! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 04:30 AM Response to Reply #50 |
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Colorado Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 04:44 AM Response to Reply #49 |
64. Oh for HEAVEN'S SAKE. I was trying to put Irgun into |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 07:21 AM Response to Reply #64 |
74. Please reread yr post... |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-01-06 11:44 PM Response to Reply #42 |
52. Why terrorism is never acceptable... |
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Colorado Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 04:46 AM Response to Reply #52 |
66. I agree. I wasn't justifying terror by the Irgun. I was trying |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 07:25 AM Response to Reply #66 |
75. I don't think so... |
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Englander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 04:52 AM Response to Reply #52 |
68. That's right, Violet. |
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Englander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 04:44 AM Response to Reply #42 |
65. Does that mean they're not *TERRORISTS*? |
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Colorado Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 04:51 AM Response to Reply #65 |
67. Yes they were terrorists. One more time: placing the |
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Englander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 05:01 AM Response to Reply #67 |
69. Yes it is!!! |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 07:29 AM Response to Reply #67 |
76. WTF??? |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 08:08 AM Response to Reply #67 |
78. 'if I have to bleed a little to get you to say it I suppose it's worth it' |
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Wordie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 11:11 AM Response to Reply #42 |
80. CB... |
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Colorado Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 04:36 PM Response to Reply #80 |
85. OK Wordie, I'll try again. The point of my post was to |
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Englander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-01-06 07:02 AM Response to Reply #1 |
31. Wrong way round. n/t |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-01-06 07:05 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. not really. n/t |
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Wordie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 11:19 PM Response to Original message |
4. Humanitarian and political consequences of occupation (from EU report) |
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Englander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-31-05 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
18. It's not all in the details |
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displacedtexan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-31-05 12:35 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. I googled that checkpoint. Here's what I found... |
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Englander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-31-05 12:35 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Well done, you're right, it's a fubar situation. |
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Coastie for Truth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-31-05 10:46 PM Response to Original message |
24. And the August 1929 Riots in Hebron |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-01-06 11:47 PM Response to Reply #24 |
53. Do you have any comment about the article that was posted? |
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Coastie for Truth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 12:38 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. See the link and the linked article |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 01:13 AM Response to Reply #54 |
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86. Locking. |
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