Israel claims Iran has new missiles

[lovuian]

http://feeds.bignewsnetwork.com/?sid=f7ca4f5339933967

A senior Israeli intelligence officer said Tuesday Iran has recently acquired 12 long-range cruise missiles with the capability of carrying nuclear warheads.

Maj.-Gen. Aharon Ze'evi told a Knesset Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee the missiles have a range of more than 1,800 miles, and said they had originated in a batch of 18 missiles shipped from Ukraine to Russia. He said the other six ended up in China, the Jerusalem Post and Haaretz reported...

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[HysteryDiagnosis]

1. Sharon has new shoes. nt.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

2. Ya gotta ask yourself.... why in the world would Iran want to do

something that would cause us to turn their entire country into a sheet of glass?? I'm just sayin.

[MercutioATC]

3. Because they know that we can't do shit right now?

From a strategic standpoint, now is the best time to grow a conservative government in the middle east. We're overextended in Iraq and we don't have the resources to deal with any REAL threats.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

6. One, (1) just a single sub of ours.... carrys more megatons of

tnt equivalent than all that was lit off I want to say in WWII. One of our subs would/could level Iran.

[MercutioATC]

10. Yes, but we've squandered all of our international "goodwill credits"...

In the BEST of times, we couldn't get away with nuking another country. Now? Not a chance.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

12. Didn't you hear?? Shrub doesn't need permission FOR ANYTHING.

[MercutioATC]

14. We're not going to nuke anybody.

Using nukes is an exponentially more serious issue than invading another country with dubious reasoning. It'll never happen.

[mac56]

16. I wish I was as sure as you.

nm

[HysteryDiagnosis]

17. I hope you are right.... I guess they can issue a stop order on all

those tactical nukes that are in the pipe.

[MercutioATC]

19. How long have we had tactical nukes? How many times have we used them?

Feel free to get as worked up about it as you like...I'm not that concerned about it.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

24. How long have we had the NeoCon Dictator? How long have the....

...NeoCons openly stated that, if they want to, they will use nukes in a preemptive strike?

You don't seem to be paying much attention to what the NeoCons have said they will do, and what they've already done.

You also seem to be intent on treating the NeoCons as if they were rational people capable of rational thinking.

[MercutioATC]

28. They're completely rational...

..they've gauged the reaction of the American public superbly. Are they dangerous? Yes. Are they stupid enough to make us permanent international pariahs by initiating an unprovoked nuclear strike? I don't think so.

[NickB79]

20. Nuking Iran = $10/gallon gasoline

That is the #1 reason we will not nuke Iran, IMO. An attack with nuclear weapons in the Middle East would send oil prices into the stratosphere, crippling the economy of every country in the world dependent on Mideast oil imports.

[still_one]

7. Let us assume that Iran has missles and even nuclear

capability for arguments sake. Why would they have them? To prevent what happened to Iraq.

If Iran has missles with nukes, and Israel or the U.S. tried to attack her, I have no doubt they would use them. The reverse is also true, if Iran tries to attack Israel with missles that have nukes, I have no doubt that reciprocal action would be taken by them

This is what the cold war was all about

[HysteryDiagnosis]

11. If Iraq woulda had them.... their cities would not be blown to

sh*t right now, and tens of thousands of primarily civilians would still be breathing.

[still_one]

36. that is my point, I doubt there would have been a war

it is what's called peaceful coexistence, or mutual self-destruction

Though they could NOT have destroyed us we could have destroyed them, but the oil would also be gone

what a terrible tangled web we weave

[Yavin4]

29. China Would Never Ever Allow Us To Nuke An Oil Producing Nation

Not now. Not ever. We'll never nuke Iran.

[still_one]

37. bull, if Iran tried to nuke Israel

we would destroy Iran in a minute, unless of course Israel did it first

China would not do a thing, because that would mean world war III

on the other hand if China tried to invade Taiwan, and we got involved, that would probably result in a nuclear conflict

[eyl]

44. Which would be

cold comfort to Israel if Iran manages to drop a nuke on Tel Aviv or Jerusalem

[still_one]

47. that wasn't my point

my point was neither side would do it because it would be mutually assured destruction

why doesn't north korea nuke south korea?

why doesn't china nuke the U.S.?

it is in neither sides interest

but as long as we play this game that it is alright for us to have nukes, but no one else, then there will be no useful dialog

[reality based]

4. Iran also has a new ally-- the Shi'ite government of Iraq

How do you like them apples, PNACers?

[still_one]

8. shhhhhh, you are not supposed to tell anyone

[mac56]

5. Then I say, let Israel deal with it.

nm

[ShockediSay]

13. What about Israel's Nukes?

How 'bout if we encourage an agreement to remove ALL nuclear capability from the middle east?

In documents Kissinger fought disclosing, Golda Meir threatened to go nuclear unless we, in the US, stepped up our conventional arms support for Israel in the war of '67.

Who needs nuclear blackmail in the middle east?

[bahrbearian]

18. Who needs nuclear blackmail in the middle east?

Sharon and his Chimp?

[GatoLover]

21. Who exactly is threatened by Israel's nukes?

eom

[ShockediSay]

23. Everybody else in the middle east

those of us in the US, who capitulated in the 67 war, and anyone else fearing a nuclear holocaust (there's irony for you).

[GatoLover]

26. Everyone else in the Middle East

Egypt and Jordan -- are they threatened?

[still_one]

38. the U.S. capitualed in the 67 war, B.S.

The Arab countries were trying to destroy Israel, and Israel defended herself

If you are referring to the Liberty, that is another issue, but let say one thing about that. There was an active war going on, and the Liberty was in the area. I am not exonerating Israel, but there have been many such incidents in the history of the world whether intentional or accidental, and they did NOT result in wars.

In fact the situation was already complicated that it did NOT serve the U.S. or any other country to get involved in that war directly. Even the Soviets who were aiding Syria at the time did NOT escalate the situation

[Media_Lies_Daily]

25. You're kidding, right?

[GatoLover]

27. I'm not kidding

eom

[eyl]

45. Huh?

Golda Meir wasn't PM in 67, nor, AFAIR, was the US Israel's major arms supplier back then.

[0007]

9. It is enviable unless a world wide arms on nuclear restrain pact is made

right now. And that includes Israel and the United States leading the world by example.

That is the only fight that is worth while.

Fat chance eh, Jim?

[thebigidea]

15. they don't even need the weapons for warmongers to justify a strike

just having a "program" or the "intention" is apparently enough these days.

[eyl]

46. No

but having a program while attacking another country by proxy, and threatening to wipe that country off the map, may well be.

[Clara T]

22. Israel’s special forces at the “highest stage of readiness”

Persian Fire
Israel’s special forces at the “highest stage of readiness”

by Chris Floyd

So now we know: Next time the fire will come in Iran. The blow will be delivered by proxy, but that will not spare the true perpetrator from the firestorm of blowback and unintended consequences that will follow. Even now, the gruesome deaths of many innocent people in many lands are growing in futurity’s womb.

The Rubicon of the new war was crossed on Oct. 27. Oddly enough for this renewal of the ancient enmity between the heirs of Athens and Persia, the decisive event occurred on the edge of the Arctic Circle, at the Plesetsk Cosmodrome, where a Russian rocket lifted an Iranian spy satellite, the Sinah-1, into orbit. This launch, scarcely noticed at the time, has accelerated the inevitable strike on Iran’s nuclear facilities: Israel is now readying an attack for no later than the end of March, The Sunday Times reports.

The order, from embattled Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, puts Israel’s special forces at the “highest stage of readiness” for the strike. While Iran’s plan to begin enriching uranium — which will give it the capability of building a nuclear bomb — is the precipitating factor, the budding Iranian space program is a “point of no return” for Sharon, and that is what is driving the actual timing of the strike. The Sinah-1 is just the first of several Iranian satellites set for Russian launches in the coming months.

Thus the Iranians will soon have a satellite network in place to give them early warning of an Israeli attack, although it will still be a pale echo of the far more powerful Israeli and American space spies that can track the slightest movement of a Tehran mullah’s beard. What’s more, late last month Russia signed a $1 billion contract to sell Iran an advanced defense system that can destroy guided missiles and laser-guided bombs, the Sunday Times reports. This too will be ready in the next few months.

http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=20051220&articleId=1566

[lovuian]

31. This is why the Senate postponed for 6 months the Patriot Act!!!

This will put the world and its corporations on tilt!!!

[Zhade]

34. "Israel is now readying an attack for no later than the end of March"

Maybe I'm wrong, but isn't that about the time Iran plans to switch to pricing oil in Euros?

[Behind the Aegis]

35. It already is paid in Euros.

Most of its exports to Europe and a few other places are already in Euros. It is OPEC that is considering changing over completely, with the support of Japan and China.

[Englander]

42. Link, please?

--Most of its exports to Europe and a few other places are already in Euros.--

[Clara T]

43. Iran has already begun trading oil in the Iranian bourse

This is a slow transition ot using the Euro. At present only a percentage is traded in Euros with a greater percentage still pegged to the petrodollar. Iran will wean itself off hte petrodollar.

So of course the response will be to bomb some sense into them as they must know that that oil isn't theirs it's ours.

[still_one]

39. That is why it was insanity for us to attack Iraq

Not only did we destabilize the middle east, but instead of being a party to try and bring peace to the area, we became part of the conflict

On the other, we had no choice with Afganistan, because they were protecting the group that attacked our country. The problem was we were not really concerned with al queada, but looking for an excuse to attack Iraq

It is unforgivable that when we had the chance at Tora Bora to get bin laden we delegated the responsibility

[Gregorian]

30. Proxy war.

Israel strikes nuclear facilities in Iran?

I'm not liking this.

[Behind the Aegis]

32. It seems no one bothered reading the link...

The last sentence is: "But he said diplomatic pressure from the international community had delayed Iran's nuclear development plan by two years." This means they will have no weapons for at least 2 years. It would also suggest that international pressure is working. It would also suggest that this information could be used by Israel to ask for more international pressure.

[still_one]

40. Too many people blame Israel

but forget the wars where countries tried to destroy them

I believe that diplomacy and dialog is the answer. I also believe that the incompentence of this administration has shifted the balance in the middle east, where Iraq will become a proxy of Iraq. That is why diplomacy is even more essential

[Zhade]

33. So?

Israel criticizing Iran for having nukes is like China bitching about human rights abuses in Saudi Arabia.

Hypocrisy, in other words.

[still_one]

41. and you can include almost every other country of that hypocrisy

including us, where it is alright for us to have nuclear weapons, but not anyone else