Link to sign the Million Mom March petition to ban assault rifles

[billbuckhead]

<http://www2.millionmommarch.org/> Let's keep as many of these killing machines off our streets as possible. Remember that guns kill far more Americans than terrorism.

[rebellious woman]

1. Done :)

[CO Liberal]

61. Me, Too!!!

:-)

[MrBenchley]

2. Thanks...signed it already...

Let's put a thumb in Tom DeLay's eye....

[sweetladybug]

3. signed it

and I'm sending link to other's to sign

[MrBenchley]

4. Good for you!

Did you sign up for the NRA enemies list?

http://www.nrablacklist.com/

Worth noting that the scummy bastards lost their bid to give themselves immunity from liability laws thanks to John Kerry and John Edwards....

[OpSomBlood]

5. Cars kill more Americans than guns and terrorism combined.

n/t

[billbuckhead]

21. Even poorly designed cars aren't designed to kill people

Many weapons aren't good for nothing but killing people.

[OpSomBlood]

22. By definition, ALL weapons are designed to kill people.

Isn't that what a weapon is?

[DoNotRefill]

6. Any bets....

on how many people show up tomorrow?

If it's less than 10,000 total, what does that tell us?

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[DoNotRefill]

12. why should they bother?

if five of them showed up this time, they'd outnumber the MMMers...

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[OpSomBlood]

8. Have all of the "Million Mom" marches combined...

...added up to a million yet?

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[OpSomBlood]

10. I wonder how many of the Million Moms are rape victims.

Tell one of them they can't have a gun and they'll tell you to go fuck yourself.

[billbuckhead]

11. Probably a bunch of them who threatened by family members, employers or

neighbors with guns. How many crimes against women and children that are assisted by guns go unreported? I sure there are millions.

[slackmaster]

13. Of the four I've met, none are rape victims

One was a trauma nurse burned out from seeing people shot up,

One was was shocked when she saw the negligent manner in which a family member stored a gun,

One was a quiet single mom with no reason in particular, and

One was a recent immigrant from the UK, a retiree with not much else to do.

None of them understood the difference between an "assault weapon" and a machinegun, until I explained it to them.

[billbuckhead]

16. When I went to the march in Atlanta there were a dozen pro-weapons "men"

there acosting the marchers who were almost all women and kids. These " white men" looked like they were from the bottom of the Aryan gene pool and were aggressively confronting the marchers until the few men there or the police would come over. These "men" were loosely organized around a couple guys with dirty old black t-shirts and Nextels (they sort of looked like biker rejects who couldn't afford a Harley and weren't industrious enough to build one). I followed these "men" around a little bit after the march to see what they were up to and they got their little group of a dozen together and got in their old smoking Fords with small county plates and sleazed away in cloud of burning oil.

[OpSomBlood]

17. So I guess they represent every gun owner in America.

n/t

[billbuckhead]

19. That's who was there representing y'all

It's like the NRA, GOA deal. Progun people and politicians say they don't represent them but they never criticize them.

[OpSomBlood]

20. If they were aggressively confronting peaceful demonstrators...

Then they don't represent me or my views. They are assholes.

I'm sure there are plenty of assholes who happen to agree with you on some issue or other. I'd bet that you don't consider them to be your personal ambassador.

[MrBenchley]

27. It's amazing

the only place you find pro-gun "liberals and Democrats" is here peddling the same dishonest right wing crap as their freeper friends.

You never find them in the gun owners' forums...or in the greater public.

[slackmaster]

35. Why aren't you out marching today, MrBenchley?

You live a lot closer to DC than most of your anti-gun buddies.

Say, where ARE you anti-gun buddies lately?

[slackmaster]

23. That was rude of them

We're much nicer here in San Diego.

[MrBenchley]

24. Everytime I think the bullets for brains bunch

has hit their lowest point....they find an even more disgusting depth to sink...

[OpSomBlood]

25. So I take it you've never told a rape victim she can't have a gun.

n/t

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[OpSomBlood]

30. And I'm sure she appreciates you letting all of us know.

If you want to meet a lot more rape victims, go to a CCW training course some time. I've been to three, and every time there were more women than men in attendance.

[MrBenchley]

32. She's said so many times...

[OpSomBlood]

36. More rape victims can be found at CCW courses than at anti-gun rallies.

n/t

[MrBenchley]

37. Says you...

and we know what THAT's worth...

[MrBenchley]

34. Hey, op

show one of the Million Moms the picture from the stentorian...bet they'll tell you pretty much the same

[DoNotRefill]

14. How typically Mr. Benchley....

to quote an article, and then fraudulently insert text, passing it off as original....

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[DoNotRefill]

42. Hey Mr. B....

Where are the crowds???

I saw the MMM Horde getting in trouble with the police today. A cop had pulled their Cooper Mini over.

[slackmaster]

44. Those new Minis are exceptionally cool

How many Moms can you fit in one - 11, maybe 13?

:evilgrin:

[DoNotRefill]

46. Reminds me of the old Korean War joke:

"We were attacked by two Chinese Hordes last night."

"What did you do?"

"We shot them both."

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[MrSandman]

18. Was Michael Bellesiles there, too? n/t

[DoNotRefill]

15. Hey...is Rosie gonna be there this year???

;)

[MrBenchley]

31. Maybe...

We know how much pro-gun loonies hate gays...so I hope she is there.

"The National Rifle Association's annual convention in Reno, Nev., degenerated on Sunday into a session of gay-bashing, with one commentator referring to anti-gun talk show host Rosie O'Donnell as a "freak" for her recent admission that she's a lesbian.
During a two-hour panel discussion attacking the media for distorting the views of gun-rights proponents, all but one speaker took an opportunity to slam gays and lesbians -- including O'Donnell -- in some manner. "

http://www.planetout.com/news/article-print.html?2002/04/29/2

[slackmaster]

26. Any good Web cam links? It's almost 10:00 in DC...

n/t

[DoNotRefill]

41. I've got a thread in GD on this...

with a live webcam that includes the area around the Washington Monument. It's EMPTY. I told you so.... ;)

[slackmaster]

43. Well, that was, uh, anticlimactic

Time to sign off for the rest of the day. Mom's coming over for dinner!

:toast:

[slackmaster]

38. Carolyn McCarthy was just interviewed on CNN - No pictures yet

Rep. McCarthy did not give a figure for expected attendance but said this march would not approach the size of the 2000 event.

One Christian Web site (of dubious credibility IMO) gives a figure of 5,000 expected based on information from the MMM's permit application submitted to the National Park Service.

http://www.crosswalk.com/news/1261600.html

[solinvictus]

39. Donna Dees Thomases

Isn't she the political insider who wrote an "Aw shucks, I don't know how it happened" book about organizing the original march 4 years back?
Let's face it; I'm not going to listen to a bunch of shrill, uninformed, gated community soccer moms on issues of violence and crime. The vast majority of them see "violence" as something that affects others and are going on a wrong-headed moral crusade against law abiding Americans rather than a select criminal element that's the problem.
Additionally, here's the scenario for all the anti-gun rights people: if the AWB sunsets, gun rights win because there will likely be an immediate influx of correctly priced rifles. If it's renewed in the current form with no amendments, then we'll still have access to (IMHO overpriced) AR-15 clones and Kalashnikovs. Either way, the issue is dead on arrival because Gore's embrace of the MMM helped kill him in the southern and midwestern states in 2000. I don't see Kerry making the same error.

[billbuckhead]

40. Gore lost because of the Supreme Court and voting fraud

[MrBenchley]

45. And Democratic gun owners were no fucking help

at all....they just repeated right wing lies and attacked Democrats, like they're doing now.

Clearly they're gun owners first and Democrats last...if at all.

[billbuckhead]

47. I think many of these socalled "Democratic" gun owners

are just NRA astroturf causing mischief.

[MrBenchley]

48. I suspect you're 100% right.

Hell, they were bragging about it in one of their cesspools last year...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=170057

[billbuckhead]

50. It's obvious that the J/PS forum has much NRA astroturf

and C/U-freeper types.

[MrBenchley]

51. Yup...

You can count on one hand the number of pro-Democrat posts the gun nuts have put up...and still have most of your fingers left over.

[slackmaster]

52. So, any idea how many MMMers showed up?

AFAIK none of the regular news channels bothered to air any footage, so it must not have looked like much of a showing.

[Wild Bill]

54. According to the NY Times 2500 people showed up.

here is a link to the story

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/10/national/10MOMS.html

[SpillTheLegumes]

53. How many millions of moms showed up in DC today?

Got any numbers to back up your call for banning these "killing machines"?

[billbuckhead]

55. With JFK pulling away in battleground states a stronger AWB is possible

It's just a shot away.

[FeebMaster]

56. I believe you mean: "about 2500" (nt)

[OpSomBlood]

57. "Stronger AWB" = More cosmetic bans.

The only "strengthening" I see proposed in the AWB renewal is based on where the weapon accepts its ammunition magazine.

[MrBenchley]

60. Kerry will fight for it

and voters want it.

Piss on Tom DeLay and the gun lobby.

[OpSomBlood]

58. 2,500 = "Million"

One shot per trigger pull = "spray firing"
Semi-auto = "bullet hose"
3% = "the choice of gangs and drug lords"

It's all par for the course.

[MrBenchley]

59. Hey, better them than the humholes at the NRA convention

"Got any numbers to back up your call"
Sure...about 70% of voters wantg them banned.