Bloomberg's anti-gun candidates win in Va. but control measures could be repealed

[jpak]

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/bloomberg-anti-gun-candidates-win-va-control-measures-repealed-article-1.975401?localLinksEnabled=false

All six anti-gun Virginia State Senate candidates backed by Mayor Bloomberg won — but it still may soon be easier for firearms to travel from Old Dominion to the city’s streets.

The Virginia Republicans (edit - morans) are poised to seize power in the Senate, giving them control over both state houses — and opening the door for them to repeal some of the state’s gun control laws.

Virginia already exports more guns than any other state to New York City — and that flood of firearms may become a tsunami, one of Bloomberg’s top advisers said.

“It’s bad for Virginians and it’s bad for public safety in New York City,” said John Feinblatt, the mayor’s Criminal Justice Coordinator.

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GOP/NRA = Teh Suckage

yup

[gejohnston]

1. OK, so

what bills are these other than the one gun a month? Which is doing what?

[ileus]

2. You'd think those sales volumes would reduce the price I have to pay.

[DonP]

3. How about, "Anti-Gun Candidates win - can't do shit anyway"

Another fine example of the "backlash" ... that achieves nothing.

Celebrate like you did when one Wisconsin county courthouse banned CCW.

It's all you have to cheer about.

[spin]

4. in my opinion, public safety in New York City would be enhanced ...

by allowing the average person to own and even legally carry concealed handguns without all the current hassle and expense involved. Currently the 1% gets to own and carry firearms but not the 99%.

The Rich, the Famous, the Armed
By JO CRAVEN McGINTY
Published: February 18, 2011

MEN and women. Democrats and Republicans. Doctors, lawyers, merchants and moguls. A remarkable, if relatively small, cross-section of New Yorkers legally own handguns, according to public records obtained by The New York Times.

Among the more than 37,000 people licensed to have a handgun in the city are dozens of boldface names and public figures: prominent business leaders, elected officials, celebrities, journalists, judges and lawyers.

***snip***

There are no comprehensive statistics available on gun ownership nationally because most states do not require licenses or permits. But an annual survey by the Pew Research Center suggests that about one-third of the nation’s homes have a gun. In comparison, at most, about 1 percent of New York City’s households have a licensed gun....emphasis added
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/20/nyregion/20guns.html

September 28, 2010 | 11:41 AM ET
New York's rich and famous looking to pack more heat, report says



More and more of New York’s rich and famous are obtaining permits to carry concealed weapons in the city, according to a report from the New York Daily News.

Singer Marc Anthony, actor Robert DeNiro, comedian Howard Stern and Mets third-baseman David Wright are just a few of the celebrities who have been licensed by the NYPD to carry a gun. And it’s not just celebrities who are taking part in the trend, artificial heart inventor Robert Jarvick, supermarket mogul John Catsimatidis and real-estate legend Donald Trump and his son are all packing heat, according to the News....emphasis added

“We have seen an increase in celebs seeking their own permits,” John Skylar Chambers, a legal-expert who has been helping New Yorkers obtain gun permits, told the News. “”They can get their own security, but with the Internet, it is much easier to find people. They don’t want to find someone on their lawn at 5 in the morning.”

Read more: http://entertainment.blogs.foxnews.com/2010/09/28/new-yorks-rich-and-famous-looking-to-pack-more-heat-report-says/#ixzz1dQkdbmtS

NOTE: I have absolutely no problem with rich and famous people having or even legally carrying handguns. I have a major problem when it is so difficult to get a license that only the rich and famous people can afford the expense and the time to obtain one.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

5. Bloomie should have been charged with state and federal felonies well before this

Another example of rich mans justice

[DonP]

6. Nah! Bloomie's rich and around here we defend the rich ... if they are for gun control

The same as some folks support the "due process free" Bush-Cheney Terrah Watch list all of a sudden, as long as it's going to be used to control gun sales.

It's OK to be at the very top of the 1% and self serving and to use unconstitutional means like an illicit watch list to control the population, as long as it supports more gun control.

Nothing hypocritical about that, right?

[virginia mountainman]

7. lol it certainly looks like he lost in the end...

The Virginia house, now has at least a 3 to 1 pro gun majority. The senate control is now out of Hardcore anti-gun Saslaw's hands, and their is at least a 5 vote pro gun majority in the senate.

Yea, Mike Bloomberg" the Republican really "Won" didn't he...

Although I don't expect a crush of pro gun bills in the future, but I do expect some much needed improvements to Virginia law, and a clearing out of pure BS laws like "one handgun a month".

[oneshooter]

10. Isn't Bloomberg( edit MORAN) an independent? n/t

[iverglas]

12. I'm confused

This is you applauding the defeat of Democratic Party representatives (that's Hardcore anti-gun Democratic Majority Leader Saslaw, I believe), if I'm reading it correctly.

What have I misread?

[virginia mountainman]

20. I don't expect you to understand..

After all, your not a Virginia resident, or even a resident of a neighboring state... Of for that matter a resident of ANY US STATE...

So I don't expect you to understand, but Dick Saslaw, while a Democrat has done many very "unsavory" things. So absolutely no love lost.

No need for me to post any details, because I know that you will spend hours scouring the Internet to see for yourself, and to see if you can misconstrue any posted information, so you can find them yourself.

[RSillsbee]

8. Why do you always seem to be promoting republican politicians

and agendas here?

[SteveM]

9. Bloomberg is a GOPer, yet he fits right in with gun-controller's agenda. nt

[DanTex]

11. Bloomberg is actually an independent.

Also, he was a lifelong Democrat before he ran for mayor of NYC as a Republican. There are many things I disagree with Bloomberg about, but it's pretty silly to try to use him to try to make the case that gun control is part of some Republican agenda, because on social issues he resembles a Democrat much more than a Republican. In addition to gun control, Bloomberg also favors gay marriage, is pro-choice, believes in global warming, stem-cell research, etc. And because of these things, he is despised by many right-wingers.

[iverglas]

13. and of course the people he was supporting were Democrats

What a strange world we inhabit here, don't we?

[DanTex]

14. I'm guessing we're in the world of "not intended to be a factual statement"

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/381282/april-11-2011/pap-smears-at-walgreens

[iverglas]

15. THIS CONTENT NOT AVAILABLE FROM YOUR LOCATION

So that link shouted at me.

And here I thought Colbert liked Canadians.

Sniff.

[DanTex]

16. Wow. Wouldn't have guessed that.

[friendly_iconoclast]

17. *cough**cough* _proxy server_*ahem*

Required content laws be damned...

[iverglas]

18. I gave up on those things years ago

Ah, I recall anonymizer the first ... Mostly what I'm after that I'm barred from is programs on BBC's website, and the co-vivant is very adept at downloading stuff from, um, other sources. ;)

[friendly_iconoclast]

21. It's a world where "progressives" find common ground with Mike Bloomberg

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x635054

[DanTex]

22. You're kidding! You really want to play the "bedfellow" card?!?!

Does it ever get claustrophic cozying up to the likes Sarah Palin, Wayne LaPierre, Scott Walker, Joe Walsh, Curry Todd, Mike Vanderbeogh, and pretty much every other right-wing lunatic you can imagine?

Even in this thread, you do realize that the pro-gunners are (as usual) celebrating the defeat of Democrats at the hands of teabagger crazies? Or did you not even read OP?

[friendly_iconoclast]

25. No, I don't. You might wish to research Dick Cheney's stance on same-sex marriage, for example.

He is correct in supporting it- but he's still Dick Cheney. Or as another example, Barry Goldwater's opposition to the former ban
on gays serving in the military. or Bush the First's signing the Americans With Disabilities Act

More germane was Ronald Reagan's signing the Mulford Act into law (banned the open carry of loaded firearms in California). The wingers forgave him that due to his loudly proclaimed anti-Communism.

Are you willing to give "The Scourge of OWS" a bye because he created and finances Mayors Against Illegal Guns?

[Marengo]

19. And what do you think of Bloomberg now? N/T

[SteveM]

24. "Despise" by many OWS folks in NYC. So I'm told. nt

[ileus]

23. I won't hold my breath waiting on any gun laws to be repealed.

no matter how nice it would be, it probably won't happen.