Britney Spears (rude toter) needs to apologize to the UK.

[ileus]

http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/2011/09/britney-spears-under-the-gun-for-heist-video/

At issue? The gun-toting video shoot's lawlessness and weapon-wielding.



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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/26/britney-spears-hackney-council-criminal_n_980768.html

Spears, who filmed her armed robbery-themed video for "Criminal" in Stoke Newington, is under fire from the London borough constituency's local government for the shoot's lawlessness and weapon-wielding.


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http://marquee.blogs.cnn.com/2011/09/26/britney-spears-asked-to-apologize-for-music-video-gun/

“I stick by my comments which were supported by young people also interviewed at the time. Gun crime has been reducing in the Hackney area. We don’t need some celeb running around with a handgun in a public street stirring things up again," Rathbone says. "What she did was illegal as she had not sought permission for what was apparently a late change of script and she also needed to notify the local police who would have wanted to have been present in such a situation. She is encouraging a lifestyle of crime, get something for nothing, or use a gun to get your way.



Look the pop princess exporting American gun values. :)


Europeans.........


What do you think? Please leave a comment...

[DrDan]

1. good to see some adults in charge - not some over-hyped celeb

[rl6214]

42. Yeah, it's not like it was a music video or something..

Oh wait...nevermind.

[DrDan]

48. so you see no harm possible from irresponsible videos?

[rl6214]

57. Asked a number of other times in this thread

Are they going to require that Daniel Craig and the makers of the Bond movies apologize to the local communities they film in?

There is about as much responsibility as there is from any cops and robber tv shows or any movie or documentary that shows gun usage. It's just the entertainment industy. Are you going to demonize all of them?

[TheCowsCameHome]

2. Where does she carry it?

She's usually half naked, plus she'a a fucking airhead.

[We_Have_A_Problem]

32. You say that like its a BAD thing....n/t

[jmg257]

3. I don't think its her gun values they need to be worried about...

Why would anyone take anything she did seriously?

[SteveM]

76. Well, given that posture, maybe SHE is the gun. nt

[Tuesday Afternoon]

79. I see she is in position to tell the UK to kiss her ass

which is what she should say.

[Atypical Liberal]

4. I wonder how much money that shoot brought into the area?

And I wonder if people shooting James Bond flicks in London get the same kind of grief?

[DrDan]

5. so money trumps, huh?

[GreenStormCloud]

8. Doesn't it always? Money talks, everything else walks. N/T

[Atypical Liberal]

10. Trumps what?

Money trumps what?

Getting upset over a music video when countless other movies have been shot in the UK involving guns?

Yes, I'd say money trumps that.

And note one of the things they are extorting, er, asking Britney Spears for is a "sizeable donation".

Looks like money does play a part, after all.

[DrDan]

12. a donation to

compensate "for the rudeness and damage she's done to this community."

Sounds reasonable to me - she (and her minions) want to come in, brandish their guns recklessly in a video, pack up and leave the damage for the adults to clean up. All the while racking up more money for her over-indulgences.

Hardly extortion.

[Atypical Liberal]

14. I wonder how many James Bond movies they hit up for their rudeness and damage?

[PavePusher]

17. So you apply a price to freedom of speech.....

how very, very progressive of you.

Fuck. That. Noise.

P.S. Do you really think they had real guns... in England? Seriously? I thought fear-mongering was for the other side.

[DrDan]

23. how routine - "it was just a fake gun after all - no harm done"

[PavePusher]

26. You seem to be conflating a filming set with actual criminals.

That's completely dishonest.

[MicaelS]

19. Fertilizer....

First it was a REPLICA gun. Second, thus no actual shots were fired. Third, what precise damage did she do "for the adults to clean up"?

The producers of the next Bond film should tell "British officials " that no further filming will be done in the UK account their opposition to “promoting gun violence” on film or video. For that matter, ALL films or video guilty of “promoting gun violence” should be filmed outside the UK. And all those jobs and taxes can go elsewhere, I bet the UK unions will just love that.

[DrDan]

22. those are lame excuses - just more gun deification

[MicaelS]

24. Double fertilizer

Losing jobs, and the taxes that go with them are real concrete facts. Gun Prohibitionist propaganda doesn't produce jobs, except for those paid shills funded by the Joyce Foundation.

[PavePusher]

27. Since you can not support your assertion with evidence....

it means that assertion is pure bullshit.

[DrDan]

28. refreshing to see adults as local government leaders - isn't it

calling out the irresponsible as irresponsible.

[PavePusher]

29. "responsible" for WHAT? n/t

[DrDan]

30. irresponsible behavior, obviously

some have difficulty recognizing it

[We_Have_A_Problem]

38. Apparently so....

...All i see was the responsible behavior of using a prop gun to film a music video, rather than using a real one.

Nothing irresponsible about that at all.

As I said, if someone is so much of a pussy that the mere sight of a fake gun during what was obviously a video shoot causes them some kind of mental distress, that person isn't worth the air they breathe.

[DrDan]

46. a video showing someone brandishing a weapon - whether a prop or real - glamorizing

gangs and gun violence is irresponsible. And in an area where half the youth deaths are attibuted to guns and knives

or do you support such behavior?

[We_Have_A_Problem]

51. Simple

I know the difference between real and fake, and i recognize that entertainment is just that - entertainment. I do not stupidly believe that it is harmful.

[DrDan]

53. just because you do doesn't mean it is not potentially harmful to others

[friendly_iconoclast]

54. *Again* with the claim of "moral harm". It was bullshit when Robert Bork came up with it...

...(or rather stole it from Frederic Wertham's Seduction of The Innocent), and it's bullshit now.

[We_Have_A_Problem]

56. Yeah it pretty much does.

Just because someone else is too stupid to tell the difference between real and fake doesn't mean there was any harm done.

[PavePusher]

64. I'm sure you have seen this video....

and can explain how it accomplished the things you claim, amIright?

[rl6214]

65. "And in an area where half the youth deaths are attibuted to guns and knives"

And in an area where guns and knives are heavily regulated or banned.

How do you explain this happening?

[SteveM]

78. Don't mention "fertilizer" after that move she made. Jeez. nt

[We_Have_A_Problem]

33. What damage?

Just because some simpleton got scared doesn't mean there has been any damages.

I mean, really, if you're so much of a pussy that the mere sight of a prop gun makes you wet your pants, and you're so stupid you cannot tell from the plethora of cameras that there was some filming going on, then quite frankly, you're not worth the air you breathe.

[TheWraith]

34. "leave the damage for the adults to clean up"? What "damage"?

They shot a music video, they didn't do a drive by. You think they damaged the public morality just by being there? The safe, gun-free UK is now tainted and sullied because someone might have seen a weapon?

[DrDan]

39. obviously those in the UK recognize the glamorization of gun violence for what it is

[TheWraith]

40. That's a weak and absolutely ridiculous argument.

And I'm not at all surprised that you fall back on claiming that something false is actually "obvious" as an alternative to actually debating using facts.

[friendly_iconoclast]

49. Moral harm? Amazing the number of Robert Bork fans you can find at DU:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=118&topic_id=335504#335606

friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Wed Aug-18-10 02:38 PM
Response to Reply #21
43. Strange seeing Robert Bork's theory of moral harm espoused at DU
For those unfamiliar with it, Dan Baum's recent article in Harper's related this to the objection to open carry:

...My friends who are appalled by the thought of widespread concealed weapons aren't impressed by this argument, or by the research demonstrating no ill effects of the shall-issue revolution. "I don't care," said one. "I don't feel safe knowing that people are walking around with guns. What about my right to feel safe? Doesn't that count for anything?"

Robert Bork tried out that argument in 1971, in defense of prosecuting such victimless crimes as drug abuse, writing in the Indiana Law Journal that “knowledge that an activity is taking place is a harm to those who find it profoundly immoral.”

It’s as bad an argument now as it was then. We may not like it that other people are doing things we revile—smoking pot, enjoying pornography, making gay love, or carrying a gun—but if we aren’t adversely affected by it, the Constitution and common decency argue for leaving it alone. My friend may feel less safe because people are wearing concealed guns, but the data suggest she isn't less safe....

[iverglas]

80. but what ceased to be amazing a long time ago

is the number of times a minute one sees misrepresentation in the Guns forum.

The master at work in that one!

[SteveM]

77. Dr. Watson's Webley occasionally cleared up a bit of extortion. nt

[X_Digger]

73. Trumps pissy pearl-clutching? Sure thing. n/t

[Remmah2]

6. This is news? nt

nt

[TheCowsCameHome]

7. Yes.

It's in the Gungeon. It must be true.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

15. in a word -

no.

[GreenStormCloud]

9. She's not a rude toter.

A rude toter is someone who routinely carries a loaded handgun and actually uses it in self-defense against a street thug. Her gun was almost certainly a plastic stage prop that can't fire real bullets.

[ileus]

13. but she was being rude to European society with her vulgar display of a firearm shaped device.

maybe I should have said rude toter wannabe.

[Remmah2]

25. She certainly makes a fashion statement.

Unfortunatly I don't know what it is.

[rocktivity]

11. Well, what do you expect her to do -- work for a living?

The Madonna Express, I call it: when you have to substitute sensationalism, sex appeal, and controversy for talent. You have to keep topping yourself idea-wise, so it's inevitable that you crash into a wall.

:headbang:
rocktivity

[ileus]

16. We need someone that lives in Europe to chime in here...maybe a controlist.

[Remmah2]

20. Mike and the Pope are doing lunch today. nt

nt

[ileus]

21. I just read over in another post Mikeb is king ruler...or something like that.

[rl6214]

43. He's being fitted for a new blue helmet over at the UN

[PavePusher]

66. Huh, I would have guessed it was purple.... n/t

[rl6214]

69. I just thought it was blue because of this

http://serr8d.blogspot.com/2010/11/mikeb302000-anti-gun-blogger-is-united.html

Seeing as how he works at the United Nations World Food Program

[rrneck]

18. Over reaction

on the part of the authorities but when in Rome...

[DrDan]

31. but when in Rome - act responsibly

[We_Have_A_Problem]

35. There was nothing irresponsible. n/t

[DrDan]

36. matter of opinion

[We_Have_A_Problem]

37. True....

but an educated opinion from an adult will note there was no harm done and no lack of responsible behavior...

[Name removed]

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[DrDan]

47. that I am my friend - got the paper to prove it

[friendly_iconoclast]

50. "Knowledge that an activity is taking place is a harm to those who find it profoundly immoral.”

Being an educated person, I take it you can explain the method by which Ms. Spear's use of replica firearms in a video shoot caused harm to all those poor Britons. We eagerly await your reply...

[friendly_iconoclast]

75. I guess he's still researching, possibly at the Anslinger-Wertham Institute...

...For The Study of Moral Panic-Mongering.

[Name removed]

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[ileus]

55. Basically faux poutrage to try and score some free money.

[rrneck]

45. True that.

Their town, their rules. Celebs same as every else.

[rl6214]

41. So do they censor movies over there that have guns in them?

Maybe put a super R rating on them or maybe even X rating?

[Hoyt]

58. I can understand how UK might not want us to export our bad gun habits and "values." Values?

[friendly_iconoclast]

60. Haven't seen "Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels", I take it?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120735/

The observant reader will note that the director, writer, and entire cast are British, and it was filmed in London.
I guess it's only offensive and harmful when us rude Yanks do it...

[Straw Man]

72. Or "Hot Fuzz," for that matter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hfs_0vPFPc

What blatant hypocrisy.

[rl6214]

61. Yeah, tell that to Ian Flemming and the makers of the Bond movies

Those guys that open each movies looking down the barrel of a gun, a handgun no less.

[Hoyt]

62. "Bond" and similar Movies? What do fantasies have to do with gun politics?

Well, beyond the fear that one needs a gun on a regular basis, or that the only way to defend oneself is with a tricked out gun or two strapped to one's body.

Bond movies and whatever our buddy above you enjoys watching really have nothing to do with gun politics and the desirability of guns in public. Next thing, someone will suggest reading the right wing bible, "Turner Diaries."

[ileus]

63. About as much as music videos should....this is just a shakedown.

[rl6214]

67. Do you think through you posts before typing and hitting the submit button

""Bond" and similar Movies? What do fantasies have to do with gun politics?"

What do Brittany Spears videos have to do with gun politics?

"a tricked out gun or two strapped to one's body."

Ahhh, I knew you could get your shtick in there somewhere. Why are you always so worried about everyone else's bodies. Is it a fetish of yours?

"Bond movies and whatever our buddy above you enjoys watching really have nothing to do with gun politics and the desirability of guns in public."

So let's rewrite that statement: Brittany Spears videos really have nothing to do with gun politics and the desirability of guns in public.

See how that works?

[oneshooter]

68. Hoyt, what is a "tricked out gun"? n/t

[gejohnston]

70. I think he confuses tricked out with

steampunk

[Common Sense Party]

59. Here's a photo of the Crime Against Humanity:

[RSillsbee]

71. Wow, she looks old

and that gun is totally fake. It looks like plastic from here

[Marengo]

74. Sigh, time in a GULAG would really help that lost soul.

N/T