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MyrnaLoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 12:15 AM
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Another rifle shooting today
Edited on Wed Sep-07-11 12:21 AM by MyrnaLoy
"MORGANTOWN, W.Va. (AP) — A man with a high-powered rifle and two other guns shot and killed five people at a West Virginia home and fatally shot himself hours later during a police chase in Kentucky, the authorities said Tuesday." http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/07/us/07morgantown.html?_r=1&src=un&feedurl=http%3A%2F%2Fjson8.nytimes.com%2Fpages%2Fnational%2Findex.jsonp

So at least two mass shootings today both with rifles, wonder what rifle was used in West Va.? We know what was used in Nevada. "On Friday, Riggleman posted a status update to his Facebook account in which he said, "Revenge is a dish best served cold and God is the chef." http://wvgazette.com/News/201109060391

It's important to note that his second amendment rights were safe even though he has a criminal history,"he was known by law enforcement."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/09/06/police-west-virginia-suspect-killed-five-before-killing-himself/#ixzz1XF0fMtNQ
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MyrnaLoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 12:24 AM
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1. .30-.30
another one of those "rare" long gun killing sprees. What is it today, 9 or 10 killed by rifles today? That's just two instances, I'm sure there are more.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 12:36 AM
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4. Lever-action .30-30s were never covered by the now-defunct assault-weapon-ban
nor the 10-round magazine limit.

Post all you want. A statistical aberration is still a statistical aberration.






OH, and I posted an analysis of the situation the CCW-holder was in when the shooting started in your other thread.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=118x458337#458628

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MyrnaLoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 01:18 AM
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8. believe me
I'll continue posting
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Kennah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 01:05 AM
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7. 2 a day is average
FBI UCR, Table 20

In 2009, 348 rifles and 418 shotguns were used as murder weapons. Also, 1,825 knives and other cutting weapons, 801 instances of hands and feet (which is more than rifles and shotguns combined), and 1,864 other weapons (like baseball bats and such).

http://www2.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2009/data/table_20.html
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Atypical Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 10:59 AM
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13. End of thread. Good job.
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Euromutt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 02:46 AM
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9. Yes, I'm sure you'd like to think "there are more"
Just like you assert there must be more homicides by CCW permit holders than the VPC can dredge up. But somehow, you never manage to produce any evidence that there actually is.
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 01:34 PM
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14. I agree. Those "long gun killing sprees" are indeed "rare"...
If you look at the data concerning the types of firearms used in crimes, you will find that "long guns" are employed in less than 3% of the crimes -- and long guns include the ubiquitous .22, as well as lever actions, semi-auto center fires ("scary guns"), bolt actions, single-shots.

Glad you helped illuminate this phenomenon!
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LAGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 12:34 AM
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2. Sounds like another "God botherer."
I'm not sure this has more to do with rifles or just kooky religious views...
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MyrnaLoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 12:35 AM
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3. I saw one of his
facebook quotes that he was mad the military turned him down.
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LAGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 12:36 AM
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5. They probably found out he has some mental health issues as well.
Edited on Wed Sep-07-11 12:41 AM by LAGC
Too bad he didn't get the treatment he needed before it was too late.
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Kennah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 12:51 AM
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6. +10
Yet again, the mental health issue in our country is blamed on firearms.
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friendly_iconoclast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 04:13 AM
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10. While the plural of 'anecdote' is purported to be 'data'...
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ileus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 06:22 AM
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11. He used a gun and a car....if only he'd had a knife and baseball bat.
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 10:37 AM
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12. Then the victims would be less dead.
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DissedByBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 07:22 PM
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15. We obviously need to ban Jeeps
And deer rifles based on 140 year-old designs.
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Straw Man Donating Member (986 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 09:02 PM
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16. Another pointless post today.
Perhaps you'd like to identify a policy issue.
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