Gun charges dropped against neurosurgeon (but small trucking owner gets 5 years)

[RamboLiberal]

The Monterey County District Attorney's Office has decided not to file charges against a Monterey-area neurosurgeon arrested for allegedly brandishing a gun at his teenage son during a fight with his wife.

The announcement came the same day a Salinas business owner was sentenced to five years in prison for brandishing a firearm during a family fight.

Attorney Tom Worthington has been retained by both men, but said "the facts of the two cases are vastly different."

Sheriff's deputies arrested neurosurgeon Dr. Christopher Carver, 59, at his home May 9 on suspicion of child endangerment and weapons charges and booked him into county jail.

http://www.montereyherald.com/local/ci_18103203?nclick_check=1

Interesting story - very similiar circumstances in 2 cases. Bias by officials?

[rl6214]

1. Money talks?

[Hoyt]

2. Another permitted gun incident that doesn't go in the stats. Do you guys call this a weapon cache?

Deputies found and confiscated a Winchester 12-gauge shotgun, a Mossberg 12-gauge shotgun, a Colt .45 handgun and a samurai sword.

Besides, they should have gotten him for obstruction of justice or something similar if nothing else.

[oneshooter]

3. You still need to define "cache". n/t

[Hoyt]

8. Just gave you illustration of a small one. Dang if the obtuse couldn't carry, we'd have no problem.

Would be very few who could pack legally.

[eqfan592]

11. I guess that makes you lucky we don't restrict first amendment rights...

...to people who are able to express themselves clearly and can do so without dripping with arrogance.

[rl6214]

26. Ok, so now we know you consider 3 guns a cache.

I've got more than that in my bedroom. I've got an AR15 leaning against the dresser, a Springfield xd45 on my nightstand, a Ruger P85 9mm on my wifes side and a Taurus 9mm in a fannypack hanging on the door knob inside.


And as far as "just gave you illustration of a small one", you have never answered the question that was posed to you by another poster (pavepusher I believe) as to what you considered a cache. Now we know.

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[cleanhippie]

33. YOU calling someone else obtuse? The kettle is calling, and she wants her pot back.

[AtheistCrusader]

4. A cache? LOL

Guess I've got an Arsenal.

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[eqfan592]

9. No, not really...

...on both accounts. Society will do just fine with him and other law abiding folks owning many firearms, and he does not have a problem in the least. You, on the other hand....

[AtheistCrusader]

16. Hahaha yeah, whatever.

No one cares.

[gejohnston]

5. no

Minus the sword, sounds like basic stuff around the farm or is a bird hunter or skeet shooter. A cache is hidden machine guns and pistols a drug connection sells on the side.

[petronius]

6. A cache by definition is something concealed, hidden away for future use. So, no.

But I agree that there appears to be an inequality of justice here. However, they seem to have the same attorney who himself said the cases are different, so perhaps it's not completely egregious.

Kind of an awkward spot for the attorney - it appears that the best argument in favor of one of his clients is that his other client got off too easily...

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[petronius]

12. "Burning folks"? Pretty sure that's not allowed in our system, and I for one am glad of it

YMMV, of course... :shrug:

[eqfan592]

13. He promotes burning people..

...but then calls us uncivilized for our firearm ownership... :shrug:

[petronius]

14. It is confusing. As far as I can tell, pro-RKBA posters are strict on violent crime, and nearly

as condemnatory of those who commit non-criminal irresponsibility. And, yet, it's the supposedly peace-loving anti-RKBA crowd that wants to get all biblical and shit... :shrug:

[eqfan592]

15. But that's not good enough!

It's not enough to want want criminals punished, or even to want to concentrate on the root causes of crime (such as poverty), nor is it enough to condemn non-criminal irresponsibility. You HAVE to sign on with the knee-jerk reaction of sweeping new legislation, some that may even go as far as disarmament, or else you are just an evil right wing mouth piece, facts and statistical evidence be damned!

Like you said man... :shrug:

[AtheistCrusader]

20. WE MUST BURN THEM

lol

[Hoyt]

21. Yea, but your buddies don't want to be held accountable in case they screw up and blast when gun

should have remained in their pants.

[AtheistCrusader]

24. Who, precisely, are you referring to?

[petronius]

25. If you actually read the forum, you'd have noticed that pro-RKBA posters are quite strict

on criminal violence as well as negligence. Although nobody advocates the medieval torture/executions you apparently favor, so I can understand your disappointment...

[rl6214]

27. The only ones that keep guns "in their pants" are gangbangers

I don't have any "buddies" that are gangbangers, do any of you others posters here?

[cleanhippie]

36. I think he is trying to make a subtle metaphorical reference in an attempt to bypass the rules.

Much like criminals do with gun laws.


Maybe there is a correlation?

[cleanhippie]

35. You should worry more about the one in YOUR pants.

Maybe try exercise that weapon. Some time at the porn shop range may do you good.

[Hoyt]

17. Another couple of one word at a time - pointy finger - reader. U 2 know what I mean -- throw book

at anyone who shoots someone when it wasn't necessary, or makes a mistake, or tries to cover up their mistake, etc.

[AtheistCrusader]

19. Funny thing, "pro-gun" people want that too.

None of us excuse negligence (which SOME PEOPLE always cast as an 'accident' or a 'gun went off' like it can happen by itself)
None of us excuse criminal malfeasance.

[Hoyt]

22. You, maybe. Your buddies so far have not indicated that -- too much risk maybe.

[AtheistCrusader]

23. Then you aren't reading their posts.

[shadowrider]

30. We "indicate" that all the time

You just choose to ignore it then repeat your meme.

If ignorance is bliss, you must be the happiest person on Earth. (Ignorance CAN be cured through education, just open your mind).

[cleanhippie]

37. Can we apply that logic to your posts then?

If so, there is enough evidence to lock you away for a long, long time.

[AtheistCrusader]

18. A WITCH! BURN HER!

[spin]

31. Nah, that would just contribute to global warming. (n/t)

[cleanhippie]

34. Yeah! Fuck the law and due process, right Hoyt?

[Euromutt]

38. Along with the lexicon of the English language

'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.'

Similarly, when Hoyt uses words like "cache" and "toter," those words can mean any one of a number of things depending on his mood, and if you can't understand his gobbledegook (which, despite repeated requests, he refuses to ever clarify), you're supposedly obtuse.

Another one of those people for whom this XKCD cartoon appears to have been written.

[cleanhippie]

39. Oh, man, that is PERFECT!!!!!

[Flyboy_451]

28. If three constitutes a "cache"...

I can only imagine what you will think of this...





This is the view into the concrete vault in the basement. Everything from .22LR to .50BMG, single shot to full auto, suppressors, AOWs, SBRs...I got a few...


JW

[eqfan592]

40. O.....M.......G

I have seen the light, and it is in your basement....!!!!!

EDIT: :toast: to you sir!

[Flyboy_451]

41. I believe in freedom of choice!!!

Wouldn't want to have to choose only one firearm for multiple uses. What you see is the culmination of over twenty years of collecting.

JW

[Euromutt]

29. Depends how hard they had to look for it

As petronius remarked earlier, the word "cache" implies concealment, as it is derived from the French cacher, "to conceal." A single firearm can constitute a "cache" if it's hidden under the floorboards or buried under a tree stump in the forest. Whereas if you have two dozen guns in a honking big safe, and the safe's sitting out in the open somewhere in your house, that's not a cache.