Boy shot neo-Nazi father as he slept, hid gun, officials say

[jpak]

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/05/boy-shot-neo-nazi-father-as-he-slept-then-hid-gun-under-bed.html

The 10-year-old Riverside boy accused in the shooting death of his neo-Nazi activist father gave police a chilling account of how he carried out the early morning attack May 1, officials said in a court document.

The boy -- who told authorities he was tired of his father, Jeffrey R. Hall, beating him and his stepmother -- grabbed the family's Rossi .357 revolver from a closet and then "he went downstairs with the gun, pulled the hammer back, aimed the gun at his dad’s ear while he was asleep and shot him," Riverside Police Det. Greg Rowe wrote in a court declaration filed Tuesday. The boy "then went upstairs and hid the gun under his bed," Rowe wrote.

The declaration was filed to support allegations against the boy's stepmother, Krista F. McCary, 26, who was charged Tuesday with child endangerment and failure to properly store a firearm.

McCary told detectives that her stepson "knew how to shoot guns" and that her husband took the 10-year-old target shooting while the two were patrolling the Mexican border with the National Socialist Movement, a neo-Nazi group, according to the declaration. Hall was the leader of the group in the western United States.

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[LAGC]

1. Justifiable homicide?

Young kids like that have to be abused pretty bad to decide to act out like that...

[gejohnston]

2. either justifiable homocide by an abuse victim

or, as some cynics would say, public service homicide. No I am not supporting killing Nazis in their sleep. It might be worth watching to see where it goes.

[ileus]

public service homicide....I like that.

[ileus]

5. public service homicide....I like that.

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[TheWraith]

21. "No I am not supporting killing Nazis in their sleep."

Isn't that the most humane way to do it, though?

[valerief]

3. Good thing that gun was handy. nt

[gejohnston]

14. sarcasm or not?

What I don't get is why some abuse victims wait until the abuser is asleep rather than shooting during the attack? That would be a clear cut case, of justifiable homicide. Here the kid's trial or hearing will be a circus of competing shrinks who are hired as experts.

[ileus]

4. I almost bought a rossi 357 a few months ago.

[eqfan592]

7. I just gave my Rossi 357.....

...to my dad so he and my mom could have a good house defense firearm. It's a very solid firearm, stainless steel with a 6" barrel. My ONLY gripe with the long barreled rossi revolvers is the grip. It is WAAAAY too small for a firearm of it's size, and nobody makes after market grips for them that can just drop on without some machining. I had thought about taking it and some K-frame grips (which I hear take the least amount of work to fit) over to a gun smith, but when my dad expressed a desire for a house defense firearm but a lack of money available for one, I decided to give it to them. It should work better for him anyway, as he has hands that are a bit smaller than mine.

Anywho, didn't mean to go off topic, but just thought I'd give you my impressions of the Rossi 357. I highly recommend them, in spite of the grip issues.

[ileus]

10. I didn't want a stub nose, I was wanting 4 or 6" barrel.

My BIL had it, LNIB unfired....I also didn't like the high polished mirror SS finish. (too flashy for me) LOL

[eqfan592]

11. lol, fair enough :)

And I can understand not wanting that finish, as it can be a pain to maintain because it shows every single hint of a finger print! :P

[RamboLiberal]

8. Longer thread in GD

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1129508

[Katya Mullethov]

9. No hue amd crie to hang the remaining parent

For irresponsible storage and allowing a crime gun to fall into the hands of a child . Not a peep .

[DWC]

17. From the child's statement

it sounds like the lady was abused and beaten down just like the child. Life in that home must have been beyond traumatic.

Semper Fi,

[Katya Mullethov]

18. Ah . That's completely different

Righteous shoot , bro .


Tough break for ol' canoe head .

[rl6214]

12. And you posted this to support the kid in shooting his dad

or do you support the neo-nazi dad?

Which one is it, you didn't say.

[gejohnston]

13. I think it was a case of "perfect case of trigger pulling finger" until

he read the whole thing and thought, "shit I just set myself up for a loaded question."

[jeepnstein]

15. My heart breaks for the kid.

He'll carry that act around with him forever. Having known a few Nazis in my time I am having a hard time mustering up any sympathy for the Dad or Step-mother.

[krispos42]

16. Well, this is an interesting case, isn't it?

I mean, society pretty much always benefits when some hate-filled abusive scumbag dies. BUT, you have a kid pulling the trigger on an unsecured gun. And society pretty much is always hurt when 10-year-olds have unsupervised access to a gun. Although this case would seem to prove the exception to the rule.


I feel bad for the kid though... he might regret this later in life.


Or maybe not. He might minimize the murder and maximize the relief of abuse. Which might be a problem as an adult the next time somebody gets "inconvenient".

[AtheistCrusader]

19. Looks like justifiable homicide in self defense to me.

Of course, this is just based on media accounts of the story.

[Philippine expat]

20. I have no problem

with a child and wife abuser getting shot