Congratulations: CCW in Missouri!

[Dolomite]

http://www.news-leader.com/today/0226-StateSupre-24446.html

You've waited a long time for the State Supreme Court to hand down this decision. As I understand it – there are four counties that presented evidence of "an unfunded mandate" and hence, do not have to issue permits – but yet must still recognize them?

Pffft! Big deal – I’m glad for you guys! Good job!

[Columbia]

1. Congrats Missouri!

:toast:

[FeebMaster]

2. Blood in the streets!

I'm not really familiar with how things work. What happens with the quarter million dollar bond the plaintiffs had to put up? Do they just have to turn it over or is there more court work involved to get it?

[jimsteuben]

3. so what will the effect be?

Will this law create chaos, anarchy, shoot-outs over parking spaces? Has concealed carry legislation ushered in a crime wave in any state where it has been enacted?

Law-abiding citizens may apply for licenses. Drug dealers, pimps and gangsters who currently carry guns will ignore this law and not apply for licenses but will continue to carry illegally.

[Township75]

4. THIS IS FUCKING AWESOME!!!!

Way to go! One less state for the anti's now:evilgrin:

[Superfly]

5. I can't wait until packing.org updates their map

[Romulus]

6. maybe this will help in MD

we shall see. The bad news is the that MD Sen CCW bill is scheduled for a hearing on Mar 17. The MD House has suddenly scheduled a hearing for the House version of the AWB on Mar. 16. I don't know how many pro-freedom people can afford to attend both hearings.

I know I can't.

[Township75]

7. and Kansas and Nebraska.

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[alwynsw]

8. Congrats to MO!

[jhfenton]

9. I already updated my personal carry map.

Congratultions Missouri!

I can now carry legally in 26 states, soon to be 29. Once I get an Ohio permit, I'll be good in Ohio (#27) and Michigan (#28). I'm also applying for a Connecticut permit (#29). My realistic limit under current law is 32 states. That will require getting 2 additional permits, from Washington and Maine.

[ComplimentarySwine]

10. I would like to congratulate the citizens of Missouri ... (no text)

[Shanty Oilish]

11. What a bunch of optimists you are

Luv you people :grouphug: but really now, when you look at that map (any version posted here), why do you see it going our way? Missouri could be no more than one court swimming against the tide.
When the US SC finally gets a 2A case it likes, we lose. IMO.
Two reasons. One, population densities. States like NY, CA, NJ are mainly anti-gun because they're generally both dense and progressive. (Progressively heaping law upon law, regulating anything in sight.)
Two, most judges would be quicker to restrict gun rights than to uphold them.
Talk me out of it. Where is the hope?

[jhfenton]

12. The trend in CCW laws since 1986...

has overwhelmingly positive. In 1986 there were 9 unrestricted (VT) or shall-issue (WA, ND, SD, IN, MS, CT, NH, and ME). FL passed a shall-issue law in 1987, and it's spread from there. And in the nearly 20 years since 1986, no state has ever repealed a shall-issue CC law.

http://www.gun-nuttery.com/rtc.php

[CO Liberal]

13. A Trend Toward Stupidity, If You Ask Me

Just because something is popular does not make it right. Slavery and Jim Crow laws were once popular, too.

[Superfly]

14. I'm don't think he did...

looking at his post.

He did, however, point out the successful trend of states in recognizing a citizen's right to keep and bear arms.

[CO Liberal]

20. Not Quite....

What we're seeing is a successful trend of states being stupid.

[Superfly]

21. In your opinion, which, as you see by the map

is in the vast minority.

[MrBenchley]

22. Blood money and crooked Republicans

amazing what the RKBA crowd here will pimp for, isn't it?

[Superfly]

15. And just in case you missed it...

here you go.

[MrBenchley]

16. Worth noting Missouri's voters did NOT want

to hand out pistol permits to every neurotic that felt he deserved one...

[Superfly]

17. Also worth noting that

Link

[alwynsw]

18. B-b-b-b-b-but

Clinically diagnosed neurotics are barred from owning firearms.

[slackmaster]

19. And that's not what the new law will do

...hand out pistol permits to every neurotic that felt he deserved one...

Not by a longshot.

[Dolomite]

23. "Slavery and Jim Crow laws were once popular, too."

That brings up an excellent point: The more a State tries to limit the individual’s inalienable fundamental human right to self-defense – the more history will look back at it as non-progressive (if not plainly criminal).

[MrBenchley]

24. The remnants of the Jim Crow movement are peddling "gun rights"...

these days....and not fooling much of anyone.

[slackmaster]

25. What a crock

Good for a laugh if nothing else.

[jhfenton]

26. It was pretty funny. (eom)

[FatSlob]

28. That was amusing

[MrBenchley]

29. And accurate

[FatSlob]

33. Gun laws are Jim Crow

Sorry, your information is incorrect.

[MrBenchley]

35. Only in gun nut land...

Here on earth, open and virulent racism is alive and well among pro-gun specimens like Tom DeLay, Trent Lott, Larry Pratt, Ted Nugent, etc. etc. etc.

John AshKKKroft got his career started fighting integration in Kansas City…he’s been noticeably timid in protecting the rights of minorities, and notably gung-ho trampling the Constitution to punish them. Again, he’s not only pro-gun rights; he’s one of the shrillest and most strident proponents of the dishonest "individual rights" revisionist interpretation of the Second Amendment. He’s so pro-gun rights that he refused to let the FBI check to see if terrorists bought guns after 9/11.

And which side of the debate threw out an ignorant slur in Congress last year about all black people being drug addicts?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A1249-2003Apr9¬Found=true

[demsrule4life]

36. And you would want us to disarm for this folks?

[MrBenchley]

37. Who are YOU kidding dems?

[demsrule4life]

38. I asked the question

Why do you think Democrats should be disarmed under this "Government"?

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[demsrule4life]

40. I guess you can't

must fit right in with chimpy and the boys.

[MrBenchley]

41. Gee, dems, I'm not the one pushing their rotten agenda

That would be YOU.

[demsrule4life]

42. Makes sense to me

The current "government" is a bunch of corrupted thugs, so let's make thier life easier by giving up our guns. Yep makes all kinds of sense to me.

[MrBenchley]

43. Gun nut "logic" or whatever it is...

The only way to oppose this bunch of nutcases, hacks and crooks is to bend right over and do exactly what they want while spouting their rhetoric.

But since you bring this nonsense up, dems...tell us how your popgun helps with this....

"WASHINGTON (AP) -- Doctors should be prohibited from testifying for their lawsuit challenging the Partial-Birth Abortion Act unless the government has access to patient medical records, the Justice Department told a federal judge Monday.
The Justice Department motion filed in U.S. District Court in New York also points out that the National Abortion Federation, a professional association of abortion providers, has previously argued that patient records are essential to determine a procedure's medical necessity.
``The government's efforts to obtain the medical records that relate to plaintiffs' performance of late-term abortions ... in this case have been completely thwarted, notwithstanding that plaintiffs admit that such discovery is entirely appropriate,'' says the Justice Department court filing.
Without the records, the government adds, the judge should prevent the doctors challenging the law ``from offering any testimony about the purported medical necessity for partial-birth abortion.''

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-Abortion-Records.html

[demsrule4life]

44. Where is the "logic" in disarming before the

enemy?

[MrBenchley]

45. Too TOO funny....

So I guess there's no way a popgun helps....

[RoeBear]

31. Splain to me again...

...how is the elimination of Jim Crow CCW laws bad for me? Or put another way why would those in favor of the "Jim Crow movement" want honest black citizens to have equal access to CCW?

[MrBenchley]

32. Gee, roe....

You're the one trying to pretend Wisconsin is a Jim Crow state and Mississippi isn't.....

[RoeBear]

34. Actually, you are right to a degree...

...Wisconsin was a poor choice on my part because they don't allow CCW for ANY citizen of the state. At least it's a basically level playing field for all citizens, except for the richest that can afford to hire armed body guards.

But you have to give Mississippi credit for getting rid of it's Jim Crow CCW law.
http://www.packing.org/state/index.jsp/mississippi

[demsrule4life]

27. Hmmmmmmmm

What has been a bigger threat to YOU? Gun owners or idiots behind the wheel of a car? (I already know the answer to this)

[RoeBear]

30. I appreciate your comment on Jim Crow laws...

...CCW was one of the worst examples of it and has been eliminated from the south. Now to get rid of it in IL and NY and WI and the rest.