McClatchy: Drug gangs help themselves to Central American military arsenals

[friendly_iconoclast]

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2011/04/21/112616/drug-gangs-help-themselves-to.html

Drug gangs help themselves to Central American military arsenals


By Tim Johnson | McClatchy Newspapers

WASHINGTON — Crime groups in cahoots with venal army officers are looting military arsenals in Central America, giving them powerful weapons that allow them to outgun police and challenge the region's regular armies.

The weapons run the gamut from assault rifles to anti-tank missiles, some of which the U.S. supplied during regional conflicts more than two decades ago. The slippage from military armories occurs regularly...

...U.S. diplomatic cables obtained by WikiLeaks and passed to McClatchy show that American envoys have repeatedly voiced concern over lax controls on military weapons depots in Guatemala and Honduras.

One cable from June 2009 carries a simple message line: "Rogue elements of Guatemalan military selling weapons to narcos."...

That might explain all the sound and fury directed at US gun shops a few months back- a diversion from inconvenient truths...

[jpak]

1. and guns from US gun shops and gun shows

yup

[lawodevolution]

2. Nope. the us guns come from the federal government approved sales to the Mexican gov

Which then get into the hands of drug cartels via corruption.

[friendly_iconoclast]

4. And the Honduran government, and the Guatemalan government, et al... n/t

[jpak]

7. NRA talking points - then the GOP/NRA should have no problem with ATF monitoring multiple-gun sales

in border states

yup

[Tejas]

8. I've seen you make up some of the dumbest rhetoric, but even

but even Brady doesn't spew idiocy of that caliber. Members of the Zeta cartel got busted in Guatemala with 150 AK assult rifles, these rifles did not come from Walmart or Gander Mountain.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Hxgir2u9dAwJ:latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2010/12/21/guatemala-seizes-plane-guns-cash-anti-drug-raids/+guatemala+ak-47&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com

So, do you think President Alvaro Colom got his TALKING POINTS from the NRA?
Does President Alvaro Colom look like a B*TCH?

Well, DOES HE?



SAY WHAT ONE MORE TIME!!1!

[jpak]

9. What a stupid post

You are saying there is no gun running from US gun shows/shops to the Mexican cartels.

That is false

yup

[lawodevolution]

10. Show us the proof or are you going on faith that they get guns at gun shows

[Tejas]

12. "gun running" ? Yes, by the ATF. But you probably think the NRA

you probably think the NRA made up "Project Gunrunner" and "Fast and Furious".

Your answer for everything is "omfgbbq teh big bad NRA did this or did that". Is that pathetic mantra all you have left?

[Maine_Nurse]

13. Once again Jpak,

Why do you think the cartels want low grade and overpriced semi auto versions of real auto assault weapons when they can get the real thing far cheaper, easier, and without the hassle of smuggling across the US borders? It simply makes no sense.

[jpak]

14. Cartel straw buyers have purchased guns from a US gun dealers that were used to kill US LE agents

yup

The Mexican gov't. is exploring law suits against US gun dealers

Obama thinks its a significant problem (the same Obama that got OBL)

etc.

The NRA et al. denies denies denies

the blood is on their hands

yup

[Tejas]

15. Yes they have, with ATF blessings.

Did you have a point?

[Katya Mullethov]

16. "Obama thinks its a significant problem"

As significant as another "Yellowstone Event" . lol

[beevul]

17. Say, speaking of mexican government...

Senate estrangement prompted by "Fast and Furious"

Ricardo Monreal, coordinator of the PT, will present a point of agreement to request the extradition of U.S. agents who executed the program


"Moreover, the point intended to encourage the federal Executive to request the extradition of U.S. agents who executed the program, for having committed the crime of trafficking in arms against the Mexican government, as well as those responsible for crimes likely," the rough Google translation continues.



http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=es&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eluniversal.com.mx%2Fnotas%2F750620.html&act=url



Who was it you claim denies denies denies?


I know...I know...the Mexican government is in cahoots with the nra/gop... :eyes:


:rofl:

[friendly_iconoclast]

18. I doubt our version of Pamela Gellar will reply to that one.

Some people have Muslims as their personal boogeymen, others have gun owners...

[TheWraith]

11. If you have nothing to hide, you should support warrantless wiretaps and searching library records.

Right?

(Crickets)

[friendly_iconoclast]

3. Yeah, that C4 and those assault rifles mentioned in the OP came from gun shows

I guess you really don't read that which is linked to, do you?

[gejohnston]

5. your tax dollars via ATF at work besides

according to stratfor.com many come from Vietnam, China, and Israel

[beevul]

6. "Direct Commercial Sales"

Googling that phrase is an eye opener...


For those able to have their eyes opened...


For those who'd rather wage war against American FFL holders and gun owners?

Not so much.

[ileus]

19. No one really buys into the Gunshow, and US gunshop claim anymore.