Saw a sign in a store today.

[GreenStormCloud]

This morning my wife and I went to the computer service center that we regularly use. The lightning storm on Monday morning came in through the ethernet cable and damaged her ability to get online. Prominently displayed was a sign showing a silhouette of a semi-auto pistol inside a green circle (no bar) and the caption,"LAWFUL CONCEALED CARRY PERMITTED ON THESE PREMISES".

We had an enjoyable conversation about guns while he fixed the problem.

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[virgogal]

2. I have never seen anything like that. Are they required by law?

[GreenStormCloud]

5. Not required. He was just making a statement.

Since this is Texas such a statement isn't really needed, but it was fun for him to make it anyway.

[virgogal]

15. Thanks.

[jpak]

3. I saw one on the door of he SC State Art Museum - No Guns No Knives

some folks understand that weapons are not wanted or needed in public places

and unreccing

yup

[Bold Lib]

6. "weapons are not wanted or needed in public places" LMFAO!!! Yeah, that's

why cops don't carry handguns. Oh wait. . .

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[whoneedstickets]

8. +1 The abosolute truth!

[rl6214]

28. Exactly what is an "abosolute"?

[SlimJimmy]

14. Reccing. Just to cancel out your unrec.

;-)

[elocs]

20. UnRec to cancel out your Rec to cancel out the UnRec.

:woohoo:

[rl6214]

30. Rec to cancel out your unrec to cancel out the rec of the unrec

[LAGC]

45. And another Rec as a pre-emptive strike. ;)

[NewMoonTherian]

46. Looks like the Rec's have it.

Sorry. I did my part.

[SlimJimmy]

53. You forgot the "secret" unannounced rec that took yours out.

:)

[rl6214]

27. Ya mean there is a "he SC State Art Museum"?

I guess that means there is a "she" SC State Art Museum?

:rofl:

[MicaelS]

35. Recc to cancel your unreccing

yup, yup, and fucking yup

[David West]

48. This wasn't a public place, it was a man's private business.

Haven't I heard you defend property rights a couple of times? Or do you only defend them when they're convenient to your cause.

[oneshooter]

4. Does it mean that you have to carry a SIG to enter? n/t

[Euromutt]

26. I thought it was an H&K USP Compact at first

But upon looking again, you might well be right that it's a SIG.

[Upton]

9. Cool...

I don't know about anybody else, but seeing a sign like that in a store window, would make me much more inclined to do business there...

[DWC]

11. They would have my business! n/t

[Saturday]

10. I knew there was a reason I stayed away from Texas. nt

[spin]

12. Stay away from Florida too ...

lots of people have concealed weapons permits here.

[Saturday]

17. I will, thanks. nt

[DonP]

22. As a matter of fact you're going to have problems in 48 states

The only safe place is here in Chicago, because even Wisconsin allows open carry. No gun problems here.

Traveling must be harsh when you're trying to avoid all 10 million law abiding citizens with CCW permits.. I guess?

[HockeyMom]

18. If you go to the Florida elementary school where I work.

you will see a big sign which says, "This is a gun, tobacco, and drug free zone". The private company where my husband works also has a sign posted that guns are not allowed on their property. Private business, on private property, can keep guns off, just the same as individual property owners can. So much for take you gun to work (schools or business), Florida.

[DonP]

23. "Gun Free" just like Virginia Tech, Lane Bryant and Northern Illinois?

How safe you must feel, knowing that any mentally unbalanced person with harm in mind will see your signs and flee for fear of getting a misdemeanor ticket.

Nothing keeps you safe better than a sign. I'm assuming no teachers keep cigarettes in their purse or briefcases either, right?

[HockeyMom]

33. We have a very mean looking, GUN TOTING ,Deputy patrolling

the school grounds. At another school I worked in, there were TWO gun toting deputies. I trust THEM far more than any female, 50+, teacher with a gun.

[DonP]

38. So it's not really a gun free zone then.

And you wouldn't have armed guards if it was really a safe area. Got it.

[HockeyMom]

40. Title 1 schools in bad areas

plus the one with 2 deputies, housed emotionally disturbed preteens. The deputies where there mostly for those kids. Kids could get very violent. Forget about armed intruders. One kid I worked with tried to stab his Grandma when he was 11, and attempted to strangle a teacher. Let LAW ENFORCEMENT deal with that, not the teachers. BTW, we called the deputies all the time. You think teachers should pull guns on these kids? I don't think so. Not only we aren't trained in GUNS, but not the LAW either. Deputies have both.

[NewMoonTherian]

47. I think that you put far too much faith in law enforcement.

And not nearly enough in private citizens. I've seen enough of both groups' behavior to know whom I'd sooner trust with the power of deadly force.

[PavePusher]

51. It's not difficult to get trained in either.

Any effective teacher can manage it in a day or two.

And, by the way, those teachers? They do have to "deal with it" until the police actually "show up". If they do....

Most schools probably don't have the luxury of armed guards on campus.

[HockeyMom]

42. You are comparing apples and oranges

or more specially, misdemeanors and felonies. Smoking violations are misdemeanors punishable by fines. Firearms violations are felonies punishable with fines, and/or jail time, and confiscation of the weapons.

[rl6214]

32. The signs carry no weight of the law

all they can ask you to do is leave unless they post the 30.06 sign.

[HockeyMom]

41. You can get arrested in the state of Florida

for carrying a gun within 1,000 feet of a school building. Sorry, it's a state law. I know they are trying to allow guns on college campuses, but I have heard NOTHING about K-12 here.

[YllwFvr]

52. In my state

And I imagine in florida, a ccw exempts the carrier from the 1000 foot rule

[spin]

43. I suspect you are wrong about private employers and their parking lots ...

Obviously there are places you can't carry a firearm in Florida such as a school.

However I question your statement "Private business, on private property, can keep guns off, just the same as individual property owners can."

Florida Law Gives Employees the Right to Keep Firearms in Vehicles

Effective July 1, 2008, Florida residents will be permitted to bring their guns to work under a measure passed by Florida lawmakers and signed into law by Governor Charlie Crist on April 15, 2008. The new law, Preservation & Protection of the Right to Keep & Bear Arms in Motor Vehicle Act of 2008, bars public and private employers from prohibiting a customer, employee, or invitee from possessing a legally-owned firearm that is kept inside a locked, privately-owned motor vehicle which is parked in a parking lot, in most cases, even on an employer’s private property.emphasis added

***snip***

The Act, while broad in many respects, also contains several limiting provisos. For instance:

Employees who wish to keep a firearm inside their privately-owned motor vehicle must possess a valid concealed weapons permit (this requirement is not extended to customers and invitees).
All employees, customers, and invitees are prohibited from possessing a firearm inside a vehicle which is parked on any school property, at any correctional institution, on property owned or leased by a public or private employer which conducts national defense, aerospace, or homeland security operations, and on any property that manufactures, uses, stores, or transports combustible or explosive materials, as regulated under state or federal law.
http://www.jacksonlewis.com/resources.php?NewsID=1358

The full text of the law can be found at:
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?mode=View%20Statutes&SubMenu=1&App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=790.251&URL=0700-0799/0790/Sections/0790.251.html

edited to change title

[WatsonT]

19. Best stay in places with strict anti-gun laws, like Detroit and DC

That way you know you'll be safe.

[ileus]

21. I have a trip to DC coming up, and I have to leave my EDC at home. :(

[mvccd1000]

44. Michigan has state preemption of firearms laws...

... so Detroit's laws are no more strict than those of the rest of the state (which isn't all that bad, once you get past the stupid "safety inspection" thing).

[rl6214]

31. I knew there was a reason I live in Texas

[gejohnston]

37. Stay away from Vermont too

Might want to skip Wyoming too, but I think you already knew that.

[geckosfeet]

13. BFD

[ileus]

16. I'd like to have some of those for my house.

[onehandle]

24. I saw a sign in a bar once that said 'Assholes Welcome.'

Five minutes later, a fight broke out.

True story.

[rrneck]

29. I went to a fight the other night

and a hockey game broke out.

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[X_Digger]

36. Okay, I actually LOL'd. n/t

[LAGC]

50. LOL.

Stay classy, onehandle.

Stay classy.

[Katya Mullethov]

25. Not unusual

And is to be commended

[Bold Lib]

39. A Texas bank has a similar sign up.

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/texas-bank-now-allows-armed-customers--2

[GreenStormCloud]

49. Some people opened accounts there to support that bank. N/T