Updated CCW map...

[Superfly]

Shall issue (or free carry) states:37
May issue states: 8
No issue states: 5 (and one district)

At least one state may change for the better here shortly...there are a couple measures being discussed in MD to make it a "shall issue" state.

For clarification:

Shall issue: A permit for CCW is always issued if the applicant meets all the eligibility criteria (e.g. permit fee, background check, etc)

May issue: A permit may or may not be issued (often at the discretion of only one individual) after an applicant meets all the eligibility criteria.

No issue: State laws have no provision for CCW.

Free carry: States which allow CCW without a permit.

[Township75]

1. WHAT?! Are you shitten me?

From what I have read on this board, people overwhelmingly support more gun control and reject easier access to guns.

Sup, you better check that source

[el_gato]

2. what?

look at this in house poll:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=118&topic_id=39507&mesg_id=39507


oh and by the way, the reason people here are pro gun is because we don't want the government to have MORE power. and yet you say glaringly false things like this: "And the only complaint frrom gunn owners has been that these uneleccted crooks aren't shitty and Nazi-like enough." Show me one instance of someone pro-gun on this board that has said anything like this.

[Superfly]

3. That poll was obviously Freeped...

oh, wait a minute...that'd be kind of hard to do on DEE-YOU

[Township75]

4. The poll was obviously Lunatic-Asswiped!

!

[Superfly]

5. Ha, ha, ha...

[FatSlob]

9. HUH?!?!

???

[Township75]

10. If you're new, you wouldn't understand...

but stick around and you soon will :)

[Superfly]

11. That was a certain illustrious anti's name

for pro-RKBA types. We've sort of adopted it as our nom de plume

[FatSlob]

12. I browse my way through

here, but spend more time in the Lounge. See you around the boards.

[beevul]

16. Welcome to DU!!

[alwynsw]

35. You want some plumage with that nom de plume?

I got a deal on some white chicken feathers and hot tar.

[lcordero]

30. I supported the last option on that poll

I do not think that it was freeped.

[alwynsw]

6. I just love all that blue

reminds me of my Air Force days

[Columbia]

7. I want to be blue too.

California is just aching to be rid of the half-commie pink.

[Superfly]

8. That's not even real pink...it's more like "flesh"

[RoeBear]

18. Sorry it doesn't look like...

...'flesh to me. :D

And that blue looks kinda like lavender.

[iverglas]

20. ah, symbolism

Sometimes blue means one thing, sometimes it means another.

Flawed as this map is (a real one would be mostly purple), it's interesting to compare it with the one in this thread:





Almost mirror image, ain't it?




.

[FeebMaster]

21. Hmm.

"Almost mirror image, ain't it?"

No.

[alwynsw]

24. How do you figure?

Are your glasses frosted over?

[lcordero]

32. I guess my perferred places to live are Washington, Oregon,

Minnesota, and Vermont.

[alwynsw]

13. The Anti- Song

Am I blue?
Am I blue?
Since my gun control plans,
All fell through.

Thanks, Bette. She sang it, I forget the composer.

[beevul]

14. Who are you guys trying to kid...

armed lunatic asswipes with permission to carry concealed weapons will obviously lead to this:




And whats this, the corrupt phaser industry arming the federations intellectual puppets?


Then your gonna have this in the streets!! :


"Exterminate! Exterminate!!"


And then, as if arming every lunatic asswipe on earth isn't enough, the corrupt gun industry is arming martians too!!



Jeez, there is just no end to the corrupt gun industrys ambition!!:evilgrin:

[NorthernSpy]

22. heh! :)

Yup, that was cute, beevul. :)

I needed a laugh. Too bad I was drinking juice at the time, tho. Poor keyboard... :(

Mary

[Township75]

23. HAHAHAH

Too freaking funny beevul!

Have a good weekend.

[jhfenton]

15. Missouri

Two problems with your map. First, there are 9 "May Issue" states: HI, CA, IA, MA, MD, DE, NY, NJ, RI.

Second, if you're going to have Ohio blue on that map--our law doesn't go into effect until April 8, 2004--then you should have Missouri blue as well. They passed a shall-issue law last year. It is just on hold until the Supreme Court of Missouri likely overrules a frivolous constitutional challenge. I suspect it will happen before Ohio's law kicks in.

Most current maps show 37 shall issue, 9 may issue, 4 no issue. Some break the 37 down into 2 no permit req'd, 35 shall issue.

Also, Kansas had a shall-issue bill introduced this week. It is very likely to pass, but faces a threatened veto from Gov. Sebelius.

Wisconsin failed two weeks ago in overriding the governor's veto by 1 vote in the Assembly. The senate had already votedt to override.

A bill has the votes to pass in Nebraska, if the Unicameral can get break the fillibuster.

Illinois looks hopeless.

I like this animated map. It gives a good sense of our progress. I should warn to those who are scared of guns and "gun nuts," it comes from gun-nuttery.com.

[beevul]

17. Hey JH...

Where ya been?

Haven't seen ya in a while.

[jhfenton]

19. Busy, busy, busy!

Family commitments, election, holidays, lobbying to get our concealed carry legislation passed, working on setting up our training foundation, etc.

Not to mention my actual day job. :)

[Stoker]

25. Wow, that's an awesome map!

I'm so glad to see that map! It really puts our gun-rights progress into perspective!

I bet some of our favorite anti-gun DU posters are crying in their beer after seeing that map! :)

Stoker

[CarinKaryn]

26. Your maps betray your words

Where is the promised decrease in crime?

[RoeBear]

27. Where is the...

...blood in the street?

This is me :toast:

This is the anti-gun crowd :cry:

[CarinKaryn]

28. Where is the promised decrease in crime?

[RoeBear]

29. Afraid I didn't promise anything...

...but why be against CCW if it doesn't cause a problem?

This is me :toast:

This is the anti-gun crowd :cry:

[alwynsw]

36. Where is the phrophesied blood in the streets?

As foretold by the omniscient seers of the anti-RKBA crowd?

[slackmaster]

39. Who cares?

:shrug:

[lcordero]

33. I want to see green from coast to coast

[FeebMaster]

34. That would be sweet.

Colorado and New Hampshire have bills in their state legislatures to adopt Alaska/Vermont carry. HB 1271 and SB 454 in New Hampshire. HB 1281 in Colorado.

[lcordero]

37. I live in New York

The establishment is too corrupt over here. I don't think that I will ever see green over here.

[MrSandman]

38. Can only trust a citizen so far

[alwynsw]

40. B-b-b-b-but

Who's gonna plant and water all that grass in Arizona?

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