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friendly_iconoclast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 02:16 PM
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Repost: Politicians shocked, SHOCKED to discover crooks ignore gun ban
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http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?articleid=1319442&format=text


"State’s thugs loading up on banned guns"

With stupid quotes from two politicians who should know better:


“Why can’t we go back to making assault weapons illegal?” asked Mayor Thomas M. Menino, who has fought for stricter gun control. “Why are people able to go to other states and buy guns and bring them to Massachusetts and use them in crimes? That’s the problem. It’s outrageous.”



I've got two better ideas, Mayor Menino:

1. Tell Martha Coakley to quit playing catch-and-release with gun law violators.

2. Stop blaming inanimate objects for the actions of human beings.


We’re literally out-gunned,” said Brockton police Capt. Emanuel Gomes. “You’re talking about the kind of firepower that can go through vehicles, through vests, and that can literally go through a house. Weapons like this don’t have a place in an urban setting.”



Psst, Captain Gomes- Guns didn't turn Brockton into a shithole, poverty and crooked politicians (including at least one police chief)

did. And a round from a KalashniKlone probably wouldn't go through a house- but a round from a nice Massachusetts-legal deer rifle

probably will....
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 02:26 PM
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1. The failed, expired "assault weapons" ban had nothing to do with terminal ballistic performance
...“You’re talking about the kind of firepower that can go through vehicles, through vests, and that can literally go through a house....”

The statement is hyperbolic and absurd. Nothing in the expired federal "AW" ban limited ballistic performance. No previously banned weapon had any more terminal ballistic performance than do conventional-looking hunting rifles.
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 02:27 PM
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2. Highlights the need for strict *federal* gun control laws and more ATF agents to enforce them
yup
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lawodevolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 02:31 PM
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3. More laws for the criminals to ignore
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friendly_iconoclast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 02:35 PM
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5. +1. Most of the seized guns came from those already ignoring Federal drug laws.
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friendly_iconoclast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 02:34 PM
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4. The NRA supported Operation Exile- 5 years Federal time for gun law violations.
And Rhode Island had a Gun Court- the only cases they heard were gun law violations.

Looks like we could use both here in MA, aw hell, these would be useful everywhere.
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rl6214 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 04:56 PM
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8. "more ATF agents to enforce them"
You want MORE members of a corrupt government agency that dosen't enforce the laws that are on the books already.

NOPE

NOPE

NOPE
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 06:07 PM
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10. I would prefer to spend my tax money on hiring more teachers or more
ecologists but, thats just me.
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 02:38 PM
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6. Gomes is a tool, a fool and a fucking liar.
Police have completely unrestricted access to the very same weaponry, and much, much more, as the Citizenry.
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one-eyed fat man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 02:52 PM
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7. Nothing new!
Police and politics, I am shocked!! They play catch and release with vicious thugs, invariably letting them walk on gun charges. Until the bastard finally kills somebody they do squat, but after he does they act all surprised that they ignored any laws they found inconvenient.

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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 06:24 PM
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12. Are you trying to say that politicians are not shocked to discover crooks ignore gun bans? Or
are you trying to say the crooks do not ignore gun bans? Could you please clarify?
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friendly_iconoclast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 06:30 PM
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13. Should I have let the stupidity slide because Gomes, Menino, and Coakley are Dems?
I am sick unto death after years of watching Democrats hand elections to Republicans by attempting to (as someone whose name I

cannot recall said) "fight drunk driving by punishing the sober" when it comes to guns and gun law.


These three need some tough love, and if they don't get it from Democrats the Republicans will be happy to make them see the

error of their ways. Coakley as much as handed the Senatorial election to Scott Brown. You'd think she would have learned something

from that.
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ThatPoetGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 10:20 PM
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17. They aren't the stupid ones.
And when you falsely claim they are, you're flaming two-thirds of liberals.

This post of yours should be deleted too, since you're continuing to flame huge swaths of liberals who don't share your narrow ideology.

Shame on you.
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friendly_iconoclast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 12:39 PM
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18. Here are some liberals that will happily sell you a gun that is illegal in Boston:
Edited on Mon Feb-28-11 12:52 PM by friendly_iconoclast
I suppose you'd have us believe that they're not really liberal...


http://www.theliberalgunclub.com/

http://us1.campaign-archive1.com/?u=01e7532eee51fe28d9c7391b7&id=44a93ba24a&e=072bea6e48

(Note: The lower reciever is the part with the serial number, and is legally the "firearm", per Federal law)

Build your very own LGC branded AR

Always wanted an AR platform rifle? Like to show off your membership in The Liberal Gun Club? Well, now you can do both at the same time. We have worked out a deal with Del-Ton to get one of their stripped AR lowers, engraved with The LGC logo, for only $95 plus shipping!! Del-Ton is a respected supplier of quality rifles and rifle kits. Once you get the lower, you can outfit it with a upper variant in nearly any caliber you want. There is plenty of discussion on the message boards about this including topics about upper variants, discussions about internet reviews, and talk from several members who have already received their lower here and here.


What, exactly, makes *your* definition of liberals any more valid than mine?

Feel free to define a liberal as "one who agrees with me about gun control"- just don't expect the rest of us to conform to your

standard.












What, exactly, makes *your* definition of liberals any more valid than mine?
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 06:19 PM
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11. It is amazing, isn't it, that supposed adults expect one additional law to deter
people who break laws for a living...The only people who are hurt by "gun control" are those who obey the laws, and are left defenseless against those who do not obey the laws...

Why does this seem to be hard for some people to grasp?

mark
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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 06:55 PM
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14. "Banned machine guns" ?!?
LULZ

Oh, the wharrgarble is strong with this one..

The AK-47, TEC-9, Uzi and AR-15 were all barred under a federal assault weapons ban passed in the 1990s,


No dear, they weren't banned. Certain combinations of cosmetic features were banned.

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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:28 PM
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15. The news media must believe that if you keep repeating a lie ...
people will believe it.

Unfortunately, they may be right.
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friendly_iconoclast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 09:44 PM
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16. Here's a picture of an AR-15 lower that should give Menino heartburn:
Edited on Sun Feb-27-11 09:46 PM by friendly_iconoclast
The Liberal Gun Club will be happy to sell you one (via FFL transfer, where legal). The Colonial-era

soldier in the logo is a nice touch...

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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-11 03:19 PM
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19. Shocking.
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Bold Lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-11 08:03 PM
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20. We must ban crime
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