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LAGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 10:54 AM
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Illinois Gun Control Breakthrough
Illinois (IRN) – A measure to strip Illinois municipalities of their authority to regulate gun ownership has passed an Illinois House committee. An NRA spokesman says the legislation doesn’t necessarily target Chicago, but that’s where the law would have the biggest effect.

A proposal moving through the Illinois legislature would strip municipalities of their ability to control firearm ownership. That includes home rule communities.

H.B. 264 seeks to create a statewide standard for those who wish to buy firearms for protection.

Todd Vandermyde of the National Rifle Association says the legislation doesn’t necessarily target Chicago, but the city offers a prime example of why statewide legislation is needed. Chicago passed several local ordinances regarding gun ownership shortly after the Supreme Court struck down its handgun ban last year.

He says gun owners shouldn’t have to pay for an extra license and training just to own a gun in the city.

(...more...)

http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2011/02/23/illinois-gun-control-breakthrough/
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 10:56 AM
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1. This is more important as a RW "wedge issue" than it is for "public safety"
The NRA knows how to keep this shit in the headlines. And keep the donor dollars coming in

The Koch brothers are smiling.
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mediator Donating Member (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 11:17 AM
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5. How are the Koch people connected to this????????????
Sounds like a pretty desperate attempt to fuzz the issue.
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DonP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 11:20 AM
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7. Now that's a novel (and totally twisted) idea
A state legislature that is run completely by Democrats for almost two decades, both houses, and has a Dem as Governor is somehow a tool of the Koch brothers.

How far out the window do you have to lean to see the world from that crazy angle?
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OneTenthofOnePercent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 11:23 AM
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8. Preemption is not about public safety... it's about protecting citizens from nuances in laws.
Edited on Thu Feb-24-11 11:24 AM by OneTenthofOnePercent
What sense does it make to ban something in one city ... but it's perfectly fine in a neighboring city. All that does is place undue burden on citizen to memorize laws in cities they may not normally inhabit. Statewide preemption allows all the gun laws in the state to maintain a consistent level of regulation.

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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 11:28 AM
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9. whoa now
what have you been smoking?
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lawodevolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 10:57 AM
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2. Hahahahahahaha, Chicago getting owned again
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beevul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 10:58 AM
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3. Good on them.
Its past time for places like chicago to get with the program.

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Maine_Nurse Donating Member (688 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 11:06 AM
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4. Good for Illinois,
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OneTenthofOnePercent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 11:18 AM
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6. It's called state preemption...
Edited on Thu Feb-24-11 11:18 AM by OneTenthofOnePercent
It allows citizens to travel within a state and only have to be familiar set of laws instead of a hodge-podge of tangled laws. It places an undue burden on citizens to have to know hundreds of gun laws within their own state because they might regularly 5 or 10 cities. It makes it easier for law abiding people to not inadvertently/unknowingly break laws.

For example, in ohio, knife laws do not have have statewide preemption like gun laws. There are three sets of knife laws I drive through just to get to work each day. My 3.5" wood handled folding buck knife (gift from my wife) is actually illegal to posses in one town... but in the others I could carry something as menacing as a tactical assisted opening automatic knife. It's just plain stupid.

Typically, preemption directly precedes of follows concealed carry. Make all the laws in the state uniform... then the majority of the state votes for concealed carry. Every city must then abide.
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