Firearms Mortality on the Decrease

[MrSandman]

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hus/tables/2003/03hus047.pdf

Firearms deaths in 2001 were 10.3 per 100,000, an increase of .1 from the previous year.

Firearms deaths in 1980 were 14.8 per 100,000.

This decrease despite proliferation of fair issue CCW.

Other than NICS, is there any gun control legislation this is attributed to.

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In 2000, suicide accounted for 1.6 time as many firearms deaths as homicide.

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/pdf/nvsr50_15TB18.pdf


Could it be that firearms mortality is somehow independent of the number of firearms, firearms owners, or CCW permit holders? If so, should we not focus on the determinate variables? Gun control hasn't appeared to be a winner nationally.

[alwynsw]

1. In the hotel and sleepless. Getting on the ship tomorrow.

I gotta bookmark this one to read upon my return to the Gungeon. It should be interesting. WWBBS?

[Withergyld]

3. what is interesting is that between 1998 and 2001 ...

around 13.7 million firearms were made in the US and subtracting exports the net number of firearms in the US increased by 127 million. This does not include firearms inports from other countries. It sounds to me like the availability of firearms is increasing, but the mortality rate is decreasing.

[CO Liberal]

2. Possibly Child Safety Locks and Safer Gun Storage??

They may have played a role in reducing the gun mortality rate.

Also the proliferation of cell phones and 911 service in the past 20 years may have gotten medical assistance to shooting victims faster, giving them a better chance to live. And medical techniques may have improved.

There are a lot of factors that may have played a part in reducing the mortality rate.

[MrBenchley]

4. Not to mention

all those gun control laws the NRA keeps asuring us are useless. Seems like they worked pretty good over the last decade after all.

I find it funny as hell that you open a thread called "Gun mortality is decreasing" to find that after a long period of decline (The NRA said: "Bill Clinton wants to move ahead on the most ambitious anti-gun agenda ever endorsed by a U.S. President" and did all they could to fight the Brady Law and the Assault Weapons Ban) that gun mortality is back on the increase under pro-gun Chimpy McDipstick, Dick "cop killer bullets" Cheney and John AshKKKroft.

[FeebMaster]

5. hmm

The NRA said: "Bill Clinton wants to move ahead on the most ambitious anti-gun agenda ever endorsed by a U.S. President"

I guess they forgot about Reagan and Bush.

[slackmaster]

7. Cite, please

...gun mortality is back on the increase...

Sez YOU!

[Withergyld]

8. I think he is referring to this

"Firearms deaths in 2001 were 10.3 per 100,000, an increase of .1 from the previous year."

I don't think the 0.1 increase is statistically significant.

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[CO Liberal]

10. It's Significant Enough.....

....if someone you know was part of that .1 percent increase.

[slackmaster]

11. Does anyone have data for '02 or '03 yet?

I'm curious as to whether or not the alleged trend continued past '01.

[CO Liberal]

12. Data Like This Usually Lags By a Few Years

It may not be ready for release yet.

[MrSandman]

13. And thee CCW laws in that time really kicked it up.<sarcasm off>

[slackmaster]

6. Education, education, education

People who understand the nature of guns and the nature of children will store guns more safely than those who are not aware of those issues.

[Emoto]

14. Look at the long term

The deaths have been decreasing for a lot longer than things like "safe storage" laws and Brady have been on the books, so it is hard to claim that those had any effect.

In fact, didn't the CDC or some similar agency recently publish a report saying that there has been no correlation btween the laws and crime?

[CO Liberal]

15. Could Be

As I stated in an earlier post, advances in cell phone/911 technology and medical treatments in the past 20 years may also have had an effect on these rates.

[Withergyld]

16. Of course availability of firearms had nothing to do with it

Or the simple fact that there are now enough firearms in the US that the number of firearms is almost equal to the population. I'm doing what I can to keep firearms out of circulation: I bought three last month.