Bill would require all S.D. citizens to buy a gun

[RamboLiberal]

Five South Dakota lawmakers have introduced legislation that would require any adult 21 or older to buy a firearm “sufficient to provide for their ordinary self-defense.”

The bill, which would take effect Jan. 1, 2012, would give people six months to acquire a firearm after turning 21. The provision does not apply to people who are barred from owning a firearm.

http://www.argusleader.com/article/20110131/UPDATES/110131031/Bill-would-require-all-S-D-citizens-buy-gun

[X_Digger]

1. Another Kennesaw-esque token law. Meh. n/t

[denverbill]

2. Mandatory to buy guns, but not health insurance. Typical right wing idiocracy.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

24. Gotta say I'm not keen on either and for the same reasons

Forcing people to buy anything they do not want is pretty bad.

For me they're both pretty odious. While I'm something of a RKBA convert if someone does NOT want a dangerous weapon in their house they should not be compelled.

The HCR mandate sucks because we're being forced into giving our money to the best paying lobbyists, which of course, they will use this newfound wealth to keep the law on their side.

[Drale]

3. Bullshit he introduced it to show the health care mandate

was unconstitutional. More likely he has a financial stake in a gun company or gun dealer and would make a ton of money if it passed.

[sharesunited]

4. Health care is intended to heal and cure. Guns and ammo are intended to kill and injure.

What kind of value system are these kooks operating under?

[Abq_Sarah]

8. What kind of value system

States that economic inactivity actually constitutes activity and can be regulated under the commerce clause by the government?

Pretty sure that's the point they were trying to make.

[one-eyed fat man]

21. Guns sometimes cure.

Death is brings an absolute end to recidivism. A criminal killed in the middle of his crime pretty much establishes with certainty his presence at the scene. Assault, rape, robbery are not generally crimes fraught with subtlety. The woman who has a man stick a knife to her throat and say, "You're coming with me," is quite likely to correctly infer that a crime is being committed and be crystal clear on who the victim and perpetrator are.

I shed no tears for any criminal blasted to hell under such circumstances.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

25. Chemotherapy is intended to kill

I guess it just makes a difference what it is killing and why.

If a woman buys a gun to kill and injure a stalker maybe that aspect is for the better and Mr. Stalker would do well to develop a new hobby.

[TPaine7]

29. Great line

"Chemotherapy is intended to kill"

I think I'll be borrowing that one. There are cancers on the body politic, too.

[tularetom]

5. Do they plan to make funds available for those citizens who can't afford a gun?

If not, then I don't think their plan has much chance of working, even if the legislation becomes law.

Do they realize the law would apply to all poor people, minorities and immigrants in the state?

Do they favor requiring South Dakota Muslims to buy guns?

Could lead to some interesting discussions.

[RamboLiberal]

10. Actually they won't allow a legal immigrant to have a carry license

The ACLU has filed a lawsuit on behalf of a non-U.S. citizen that alleges South Dakota’s concealed weapons law is discriminatory – a legal move that one gun-rights group warns will open the door to arming illegal immigrants.

The lawsuit was filed this week on behalf of British national Wayne Smith, who legally immigrated 30 years ago, and for years was able to get a concealed license. In 2002, however, South Dakota amended the law, making U.S. citizenship a requirement to carry a concealed weapon. When Smith went to renew his long-held permit last July, he was denied because he is permanent legal resident, not a citizen.

The ACLU says that's a blatant violation of the 14th Amendment which it says prevents states from being able to make such "arbitrary designations."

But supporters of the law say the state has every right to keep guns away from non-citizens.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/01/06/new-aclu-lawsuit-expand-south-dakota-gun-rights/

A couple of weeks ago I was arguing with a Pittsburgh PA radio host why I think it should be legal for SD legal immigrants to be allowed carry licenses.

[RSillsbee]

23. Do they favor requiring South Dakota Muslims to buy guns?

both of them?

[YllwFvr]

31. ive got two pistols that were $40 apiece

but I wouldnt rely on either for self defense. You get what you pay for

[geckosfeet]

6. Isn't it unconstitutional to require people to buy health insurance? Oops - I mean guns.

[thereismore]

9. Wayyy too much sense, wayyy too much sense. nt

[shadowrider]

11. It's unconstitutional to require people to buy health insurance from the government

or any service for that matter, especially since the government COULD regulate other insurers out of the market.

I may be incorrect, but that's my understanding.

[Katya Mullethov]

17. That would seem to be the entire point

So that the opposition will holler " Yoooooooo cant make us do that ! You don't have the consti-......... uh . "

To which they can reply , " We don't have the ...WUUUUUUUT ? "

[shadowrider]

22. Actually, it's different. The gov't is mandating a gun be purchased

but they leave the source of the purchase up to the purchaser. You don't buy from the gov't.

It's the Kennesaw law but on a state-wide basis.

[DissedByBush]

33. That was an issue of the federal government requiring it

It's long established that state governments can. Driven a car without insurance lately?

Of course it's federally constitutional, and probably is according to their state constitution.

But that doesn't mean it's not a dumb idea.

[JustFiveMoreMinutes]

7. Schizophrenics: 1st thing they need is Healthcare, LAST thing a gun

Just sayin'...........

(Altho the 'bill' is humorous but sad that lawmakers PLAY while the public goes wanting...............)

[BrklynLiberal]

12. Guess the inmates truly are running the asylum..

[Recursion]

13. Depends. Is there a public option for gun stores? (nt)

[Pullo]

18. The Public Option is the military

People who sign up have their guns provided by the tax payer

[Recursion]

19. Yeah but you don't get to keep them

I mean, you can't take your gun to the BEQ unless you'd prefer the brig to your next deployment...

[RSillsbee]

14. Do gun owners get a tax break for already having one? NT

[OneTenthofOnePercent]

30. Oh god I hope so... I'd be up for about a dozen tax breaks :D

[RSillsbee]

15. I want to know how they intend to enforce this W/ in the confines of the 4th amendmentNT

[Katya Mullethov]

20. Say " Are you serious? " three times , click your heels

And you're golden .

[Glassunion]

26. Probably the same way Kennesaw does...

When we lived there and the law was enacted, each home owner had an option. Either have a firearm in the home or go and get one. You had options if you could not afford one. At the time if you went down to the municipal building they would make arrangements for you to pick up a .22 from a local FFL at either little or no charge.

The law has many outs(exemptions) and to date, since going into effect in 1982 not one person has ever been prosecuted under the ordinance. The law itself does not even determine what the penalty is for non-compliance.

My best guess, is that they will not enforce it the same way Kennesaw does.

In other news... Acworth has a ordinance requiring residents to own a rake. I wonder how they enforce that one?

[YllwFvr]

32. as far as I know

they dont enforce the Kennesaw law, its just feel good legislation. The exact opposite of most gun control laws.

[OHdem10]

16. Must have a gun. Must not have health care. and I thought

these were "pro-life" people. What is wrong with
this picture????

[guitar man]

27. No...just, no

If sane, law abiding people want guns they should be able to get them. If people don't want guns that too should be their choice. No good could come from forcing guns into the hands of people that don't want them. :banghead:

[Glassunion]

28. These 5 law makers can stick it...

They are nothing other than 5 petulant little brats who are throwing a tantrum.

It's sort of like when you were a child and you parents made you do a chore, and you did your best to make it the most miserable experience for them. "Oh you gonna tell me to do this? Well now I'm gonna make you do that."

Fucking wheel-spinners. Instead of working on what they see as a problem, they are wasting time and resources on something they know will fail. If I hand an issue with health care, I would work on health care. I would not try to pass an ordinance requiring people to wear purple(not my color) dresses on Tuesdays, just to prove a point. To me this is like doing work to get out of having to work.

[benEzra]

34. Bad idea. Gun ownership is a deeply personal choice and should remain so.

And that applies in *BOTH* directions.